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  1. sensiblegreeny

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    Neither is the answer notdistant. Both are brain dead. Have to say that the footage of that incident is chilling to say the least. I understand the protests about this and it is a pity that the drags use it to loot shops and give people like Trump and excuse. Not sure what protests in London achieve though. Don't disagree with the sentiments but the effects from it are just zero as Boris and his mob won't rock any boat with yankeeland.

    I listened to PMQs today again and poor old Boris was getting quite annoyed at the questioning. He basically got called out on the presentation of Stats which for the opposition is quite legitimate really. He started flapping on about Labour trying to make political capital out of the virus and not assisting the Country in any way. No comment on the actual question of why the stats didn't add up of course just an accusation out of nothing to change the argument and say nothing of importance. He was trying to do the table thumping thing with no real audience. Somehow it isn't the same and a bit like a football match without a crowd. Why Boris should think he can just lie and lie and never be called to account I'm sure I just don't know. If anyone has done nothing much then it's him and whatever he has put his mitts on has not gone to plan yet. The Scientist world are saying the unlock is not right yet, his Stat man is saying the stats aren't right. the teachers are saying it is too soon to open schools but to save a bit of face he is just plugging on regardless. I know better than all the experts kind of thing just like Donald. If it goes tits up then he will just find somebody else to blame or fudge the figures to fit. He need to go and go now before he can inflict any more damage.
     
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  2. Plymborn

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    HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO LIVE HERE.

    A Council has told residents they cannot park outside their own houses in order to make way for McDonald's customers queuing at a reopened drive-through outlet.

    Households in Southend. Essex, were given a day's notice to move their cars before the fast-food outlet resumed trading.

    The Council said "We are suspending parking on the carriageway along Cokesfield Avenue and Pantile Avenue between 10am and 10pm. The suspension will be in place for up to two weeks, but this will be under constant review and removed as soon as possible".

    Daily Telegraph article......Thursday...4/6/20.

    My thoughts.....No comment from the residents....maybe it was unprintable.
     
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  3. notDistantGreen

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    Similar here in Plymouth especially on Tavistock Road, where there are both Mcdonalds and Kentucky Fried Rat, both having entrances behind bus lanes which push the queues out into the 2 remaining running lanes.

    Do you know, if the lockdown was released today, Mcdonalds would be the last place I'd be rushing off to. How do these people live?
     
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  4. Plymborn

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    Is that the brown rat....or the plague spreading Black rat.....just asking....:rolleyes:.

    Keeps the kids quiet....withdrawal symptoms from junk food after 10 weeks I expect.
     
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  5. notDistantGreen

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    I do remember shunning KFR after a night out as a student for the much superior hygiene standards of a Turkish bloke selling kebabs out of a "restaurant" the size of two phone boxes on the Old Brompton Road........ Lived to tell the tale.
     
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  6. Plymborn

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    The NAAFI at RAF Steamerpoint in Aden was a sight to behold.....better food than the RAF canteen......but you ran the gauntlet of hoping not to get "extra" rations from the multitude of cockroaches crawling over the kitchen ceiling... and falling into your meal before you got it...of course the Arab assistants might pop one in after spitting into your meal on the way to the serving hatch anyway....what you didn't know you didn't grieve about.
     
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  7. sensiblegreeny

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    So if the food was better than the RAF Canteen then what did they do to the food before you got it? Don't answer that I don't want to know.

    In foreign climes notdistant the favourite food of the seafarer after a night on the bevvy was "something on a stick" from a bloke with a cart with a fire in it on the road side. It was better not to ask for a menu and by the time you were hungry enough to eat something from them you had drunk enough not to care.

    It was never fattening due mostly to the fact that you threw up at some point after munching it and not sure if that was due to the cuisine or drink. Ergo quite healthy then by today's standards.
     
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  8. Plymborn

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    With the 'R' number showing signs of going over one again....do we need mass meetings in London, Manchester, Cardiff, Leicester & Sheffield after being warned not to infringe on social distancing....I assume the West Country spike is day tourists doing what they want and sod everyone else.

    So unfair on those that have religiously stuck to the guidelines.....we could easily go back to square one again.
     
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    YES.

    The reason for the mass meetings is to highlight people's disgust of the treatment of another human being by a supposed law enforcement officer. The same is happening finally in Australia because their Police treat the Indigenous People the same way. The powers that be do not listen to silent protest and are only ever swayed when the masses show solidarity and object loudly. I do not condone theft as part of a protest but believe those who are doing that are a sideline to the actual issue being protested about. There will always be people who take advantage of unrest to gain themselves. The days of people touching their forelock to the Gentry is passing and not before time. I hope the young continue to protest and good on them for doing it I say.
     
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    So Covid-19 spreads again because of such demonstrations....their protest doesn't quite ring true when they're on a ventilator and NHS staff are risking their lives because of that persons attitude to social distancing....there is a way to demonstrate and that ain't it.
     
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    But you and the Government are taking notice which is more than would be said if they did it this other way you speak of. How do you demonstrate without making a noise and nuisance? Funnily enough it is deemed ok to open up the commercial world again and put people on for example public transport in droves. The wearing of masks is deemed so important that it isn't going to be a rule for another 8 days. By which time how many more people will be infected by your reckoning? They are allowing all sorts because it is too expensive not to and not because it is medically prudent now to allow it. If there is another spike as you put it who will be to blame? A few hundred demonstrators or a Government bereft of any clue. I know which one I think fits the bill. Some people want to do a bit more than just Tut at an injustice that's of course assuming they think it's an injustice in the first place.
     
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    Premier Inn has just cancelled our July booking....which we made last January....checked later in the year date.....and found some good offers....But noticed that their restaurant would be closed.....going to Premier without the breakfast offer is definately not on.
     
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  13. notDistantGreen

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    A Twitter tag #DefundtheBBC has sprung up which calls for people to cancel their licence fee direct debit in protest for imagined bias in its reporting of various major news stories.

    One large group following it are lead by that utter moron Douglas Carswell and a knuckle dragging retinue of Brexiteers, complaining as you may imagine about the Beeb's coverage of Brexit and other neo-fascist topics, which they deem to be elitist, left leaning hand wringing.

    The other group are Antifa sympathizers complaining of un-woke coverage of the recent George Floyd demonstrations and the rioting and criminal damage that followed. The see the BBC's coverage as elitist right wing bias against downtrodden minorities.

    This shows the dire straits society is in, with the decent majority, including the BBC, left in a wasteland between warring extremists who, incredibly, are able to support the same campaign without seeing the irony of it.
     
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  14. Plymborn

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    My first port of call for news is....the BBC....and always will be....even though they're about to start recharging me for the license fee.

    Hey less of this 'knuckle dragging retinue of Brexiteers.....that hurts to the quick....my bottom lip started to quiver for a moment.....:shocked:.
     
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    Transport for London (TFL) are suspending the Freedom Pass so that it doesn't start until 9am on weekdays from June 15th for a temporary period to help congestion during easing of lockdown... on buses and underground....also suggesting that you don't all rush for 9am because it will cause overcrowding.
     
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    The ones who follow Douglas Carswell are the a group apart even from Brexiteers generally Plym. The guy's been in more parties than Kate Moss.

    There's a poll on that hashtag, who supports the licence fee and who doesn't. On the basis of that, Carswell is crowing that 85% of the population are in favour of abolition.

    Well no Douglas, it's 85% of a self selecting sample of 40k from a population of 60m all of whom bothered to follow #defundthe BBC in the first place. There are politician's lies and deceptions and then there's boneheaded idiocy.
     
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    The Beatles song....'Penny Lane' will be under pressure soon to change its title.

    Penny Lane is named after...James Penny who was a slave ship owner.

    The sanitizing of the UK to appease the current trend includes of course....Hawkins and Drake (Island name change coming up ?).

    I dread to look up Lyndhurst in case there is an Elizabethan captain/owner/trader with that name who sailed the seas on the triangle... UK...Africa...America....back in those days who made a bob or two from the slave trade.

    The Mayflower sailed to America....but was it done using the rules as they are today...was it only a white crew they used.....blimey that's two Argyle stands under threat.

    Other names being mentioned are....Rhodes...Thomas Guy...Henry Tate...Milligan...Earl Grey.(that's your tea gone)..Robert Dundas...Columbus...Gladstone (bag change)...Charles 11...Oliver Cromwell...Nelson (will we have to give back Trafalgar)...Gandhi...Nancy Astor...and many pub signs....etc...etc......I'm sure Sadiq Khan our London Mayor will rustle up a few extra names to add to that list.

    I don't mean to be so flippant over this...but I do feel there are activists jumping on the bandwagon and bringing forth their own agendas.....do we just whitewash (not an intended pun) our history and erase it as if it never happened......you cannot see all of the past through the eyes of the twenty first century.

    Romans...Greeks...Vikings...Crusaders...Spanish...French...Portuguese...Dutch...Mongols...and many others.....you cannot change the worlds history like you can sanitize your hands to suit the present moment.
     
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  18. notDistantGreen

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    I'm completely supportive of the anti-racist demonstrations but we cannot rewrite history. We are talking about events 400 years ago which are to be deeply ashamed of but occurred in quite different times, Nobody is entirely innocent: the majority of slaves were taken from their homes not by white traders but by local black warlords who kidnapped their victims from neighbouring tribes and sold them on.

    I've been watching David Olusoga's history series "A House Through Time" . This third series concentrates on 10 Guinea Street, an 18th century house close to Bristol Docks. The name of the street itself refers to the Guinea Coast of Africa and the house and adjacent ones were built by Captain Edmund Saunders, a slave captain. No 10 was first occupied by Joseph Smith, another slave captain. I'm afraid these connections are everywhere and pulling down a few statues doesn't alter it.

    I understand Colston was a very significant benefactor at home, establishing schools, almshouses, hospitals and churches in Bristol, London and elsewhere. It doesn't excuse him but it does show that it's difficult to judge yesterday's men by today's standards. I'm afraid these connections are endemic

    Drake was only the second man to circumnavigate the globe and played a part in the defeat of the Spanish Armada, without which, we'd still be Catholics. That may not seem to matter much in these irreligious times but thousands of Protestants would have died horrible deaths at the hands of the Inquisition.

    We have democratic processes to decide these matters and judgement can't be delegated to the mob. Offenders need to punished - and that includes the vandalism of various memorials to Stephen Lawrence, which are even more reprehensible in many ways since Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993, not 1693.
     
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  19. Plymborn

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    " A House through Time" is a series of programs that I've always enjoyed...and .as an historian David Olusoga is very listenable to.....just wish he'd sort his hair out a little....it just looks like an after thought.

    Bristol as a major port back then definately has a bit of iffy history....more so than Plymouth.

    I shall be waiting to see if Drake Island becomes an issue.....maybe a sit-in is on the cards....watch this space.
     
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  20. notDistantGreen

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    More at risk is Drake's statue!

    I was thinking that I read recently that back in slave trading times, if a citizen was convicted of certain crimes, in addition to a death penalty he's be sentenced to the confiscation of all his lands and property. The convict would go to the gallows knowing his nearest and dearest were to be made utterly destitute, which in those days meant they'd die a slow and squalid death too.

    This could be avoided if the convicted opted to die with added agony. Rather than public hanging or whatever, they'd be placed between two boards and over a period of time, weights would be placed on the top board to they were slowly and agonizingly crushed to death. This was called "pressing".

    At least the slavers had some incentive to keep their victims alive and healthy but this level of state sponsored barbarity shows that you can't judge any aspect of the 17th and 18th centuries by our standards.
     
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