Off Topic Madeleine McCann

One of them drove the body to meet him somewhere where the body was transferred?

 

Polarising topic. Many more parents than people realise do use sedatives. Some are using them in certain medicines without even realising it. Lots of parents swear by using antihistamines to induce sleep. I mean countless parents use sedatives on planes for instance.

Personally speaking I would never ever use these. I think its dangerous and unnecessary. However the law is pretty loose around it. So to be honest its a bit of a moot point as they've done little wrong.

As for taking their kids or some middle class privilege. I have seen first hand people akin to your Mick and Sandra, neglect their kids in far worse ways over a long period of time, and still not have their kids taken away. The law has simply acted as normal.

But the parents sedating their kids all across the world, or those neglecting them in far worse ways, aren't at the centre of a high profile media obsessed case so they get judged by different standards. At least by the general public anyway.

 

Mild sedative- kid wakes and is very drowsy. Climbs up to window to look out to see parents, slips backwards hits head on corner of table or tile edge, fractured skull bleeds out. Parent checks and realised they ****ed up. Calls drug dealer they used to see if they know anyone who can dispose of a body. German chap says meet me here. They put body in car drive to meet him then go back clean up. Swear to the drug dealer they will never ever say anything if he doesn’t. Make up crazy story of abduction. That’s why she says she’s been abducted he took her.

 

Plausible. Now just find the actual evidence

 

yeah and evidence has convicted this guy of 17 crimes including child sex offences and the Mccans are guilty of leaving their daughter alone , so I'm happy with my assumptions at this point ... I've told you that you have yours and that's fine, so why are we going around in circles.. let's just see what unfolds because it's more important closure and justice ensue tan who's right or wrong fella.

 

No forced entry. Blood on the floor tile but it had been cleaned. Parents admitted sedating child. Parents finger print on window. Window had been cleaned. Blood in boot of their hire car. German chap selling car next day. He’s a paedo. In the area. There’s more aswell I just can’t remember it.

Oh and the bloke that the friend seen carrying the girl up the road was one of the females in the party. That’s not a fact. Just a theory!

 

“An adults night”. This was the fifth or sixth night in a row where Maddie and the twins had been left alone.

Parents were supposed to have been checking “regularly” during the nights. Claimed initially to be every 15 minutes but eventually decided as every 30 minutes. Was separate report that on one night another holiday maker had complained to the manager as Maddie had been crying for her Daddy for 75 minutes and not attended to.

Rest of what you say fits a possible scenario But doesn’t take into account blood found in apartment behind “moved” sofa or as to when it occurred as possibly not on that night.

 

No I mean actual evidence that would lead to a conviction.

 

This does depend upon what offence or offences they actually committed. Leaving a child alone an offence but probably not prison. But if they overdosed child and killed her or if they illegally disposed or helped dispose of body that would be a completely different kettle of fish.

 

Stop effin replying to me then, no evidence this guy took her, my 'feeling' is they know its the parents, wonder if this guy gets them charged with his insights. Bet the solicitor working with parents is already looking at that possibility

 

it's all just bollocks anyway.... oh there was a minute trace of blood from a person living in a room ? so what I've got my own blood everywhere... no forced entry ? he was a burglar there's ways to do that anyway... I think people just want to him after the Mccans .. they're so far in even faced with the possibility that this child sex offender / rapist drug dealer burglar being responsible they will just keep coming up with a more far fetched explanation ... than this guy was watching and he knew how to break in .. he took her away in one car , raped murdered her and then changed the ownership of car A and ****ed off.

It won't surprise me if they find Maddy in one of the wells at that farmhouse btw...

it's never as far out as in the movies

 

I couldn't have been more reasonable

let's just see what unfolds.

 

No disagreement from me, I did actually point this out in several of the posts above.

People seem to struggle with the premise of innocent until proven. Especially if it doesn't fit their amateur investigations and witch hunt. However that is not the case, at least at present. They are only guilty of leaving the child alone as it stands. In which case their punishment is not out of keeping with the law regardless of how much money they have or where they sit in society.

I'd probably fall on the side of them being parents who've paid a heavy price for a grave error of judgement and selfishness. However I'm open minded because the evidence is clearly not up to scratch to support any of the assertions being made. One thing I do know however is those on the witch hunt, sending death threats and hounding them do deserve punishment because there is very clear evidence they have done wrong. Complete morons but then that is the case a lot with the general public. They think they know better than they do, often without even arsing themselves to become educated on a topic.

 

Oh well that’s the hard part. They must have a confession from the German man or the person he talked to about it maybe said some things to the police that only a person connected to it would know.

The camper van, has it been recovered by the police do we know?

 

That’s possible aswell. He’s maybe only connected because he seen something. He slept in his camper and a lot so it’s possible he seen someone with the body? Or even bumped into them or even asked what they where doing. There’s a connection between him and one of the gang I’m absolutely certain of it!

 

Is a confession enough to secure a conviction without supporting evidence?

 

These are just my thoughts on teh matter, the Mrs thinks the sun shines out of Kate's arris! Guess thats a mums supportive feelings towards another who had her baby taken, but not the other two!

Hope that some time in the future this gets closure

 

no confession.... they've stumbled across this guy and they are confident it's gim6, however they are trying to find missing parts of the jigsaw.. they already know imo. I don't buy all the far fetched stuff at all... the less far fetched the more probable

 

Only if the confession turns up evidence or a body I guess. I’m no legal person. But if he was to say. Right I know where the body is. They check and it’s there then it’s a question of proving how he knew it was there.

This brings problems because it doesn’t mean he murdered her. Just means he’s an accomplice. He’s also perverted the course of justice.

If he points the finger at the family or friends then I have no idea how they would prove this.

 

It would be good. In a previous employment me and a female colleague who am sat in my office (she was tidy aswell) used to pretend we where investigators and looked for evidence on the internet and we made up our own theories aswell it was fun.

We also use to look at that army chap that disappeared on a night out two years ago who just disappeared without a trace.