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Off Topic Madeleine McCann

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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    nah even in that world you don't tell people you raped a child mate. He night have got of his nut and let slip to someone I suppose , but I doubt it.

    he'll have done a few weird things people will recall though
     
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  3. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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  4. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Nah I don't read any of yours and while I'm many things, I'm not a hypocrite :biggrin:
     
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  5. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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    I was pretty certain yesterday, but now it's not even open to debate imo.. just about prooving what they already know




    Prosecutors in Germany reopen investigation into Madeleine McCann suspect over unsolved disappearance of five-year-old girl in woods in 2015 - as chilling online chats reveal he wanted to 'capture something small and use it for days'
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  6. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Indeed it is. It doesn't seem to have mattered to some though, they convicted the parents anyway. Then subjected them to sickening threats etc.

    I don't care either way who did it, I'm only interested in justice being served. I suspect it never will be.
     
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  7. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    why sedate kids when you can pick them up in shops? Errrr

    cameras and transaction history. Unless you get a receipt from a drug dealer.
     
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  8. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    I don't know , but I think they've got the guy.
     
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  9. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    you don’t have to keep stating that, You won’t change my opinion FFS
     
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  10. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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    but you can keep banging on about sedatives ? I don't care what your opinion is and I've actually said you're entitled to it 3 times now.

    is there anything else I'm not allowed to imply ? just to avoid any further issues
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    so your common drug dealer doesn’t do anything that can be used as a sedative. No profit margin in it for them. Thanks for using your experience to educate.
     
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  12. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    why buy illegal when you can just buy cheaper in a shop? illegal drugs are bought for other aims.

    I dunno mate I'm entitled to shout on this though
     
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    Let's just say for arguments sake that he has been involved with the McCanns. Then surely he's going to spill the beans and take them down with him? Or do you possibly think that he is too honourable to do that. No, I'm with the good captain on this. They have got him bang to rights and the McCanns are innocent of everything apart from not weeping and wailing.
     
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  14. Delusional Full Stop

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    Innocent of leaving 3 children under 5 years old by themselves for 5 or 6 nights running in a foreign country whilst they had drinks and food with their friends over 65 yards away? That to me is gross neglect.

    Offences of child cruelty and/or child abandonment spring to my mind.
     
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  15. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    yeah they did make a huge error of judgement, but they've paid a price bigger than anything on earth. I don't think it's abandonment either. is every child I see running around with no parent in site abandoned ? they thought she's safe locked in the room. did you have no sympathy for James Bulgers mother ? that child was left outside a shop.....it's the same thing. just a bad call at the wring time ... people make mistakes mate it's not always a case of people being bad people.. just daft... the real monsters the real.issue to me

    I'm not saying what they did was anything but stupid , but seriously only a psycho couldn't find some level of sympathy for someone's child being raped and murdered.. I just don't get it.
     
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  16. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    anyway who's right or wrong matters not really.. the poor girl and the people impacted by all this matter. regardless of our differing views let's all hope she gets some justice ... poor little thing.. and what looks like another .. probs a few
     
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    honestly i would love to get my hands on monsters that do these things. not interested in any sob stories about why they're like it or whether it's right id nail them to a post and set them on fire... no regrets. can we all agree on that?
     
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  18. Warmir Pouchov

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    I think its covered under neglect. That is the offence that best fits what they did. Cruelty and abandonment are more serious offences fitting a different description.
     
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    apparently the punishment for what they did should be more severe than your child being raped and murdered and then being falsely accused of killing her ... it would seem that way anyway.. I just don't get it ... I can't imagine anything they could do to make their suffering any greater or what benefit it would have to the situation by doing anything other than offering some bloody support as they try to live out the rest of their miserable existence living with the knowledge they could potentially have prevented it.... let's not forget they have other kids who need them regardless of the views of me you or anyone else ... I'm.sure those kids won't be left anywhere or even allowed to the walk to the bloody shop and if they're are it's highly unlikely another rapist murder will get hold of them... leave the poor family be.
     
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  20. Delusional Full Stop

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    Bulger case is totally different. Parent shopping if I remember and James outside butchers shop (?) a short distance from his mother when he was kidnapped. Would have been minutes at most they were apart.

    Maddie by herself (with 2 younger siblings) for hours night after night with parents drinking and eating and about 70-90 yards away.

    No comparison.

    Useful page that Courts consider in determining severity of sentence.

    https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.u...t-abandonment-neglect-and-failure-to-protect/

    On abandonment

    The Law and Child Abandonment
    Child abandonment is considered to be the act of leaving of a child on their own without any intention of returning to ensure their safety and wellbeing. It is considered to be among the most serious of offences a parent can commit in relation to their child.

    You can argue the McCann’s claimed to check on children regularly but their story changed as to how often and also have independent witness saying Maddie cried one night for 75 minutes without anyone checking on her. Probably wouldn’t be abandonment but for me that’s probably due to the Pact of Silence and difficulty in proving it.

    I could go on “locked safe in a room” and if there was a fire? Actually they claimed again in a change in their original story that the patio door was left open for that reason but that meant kiddies could potentially wander off through unlocked door.

    I have no sympathy for the McCann’s at all. Their best scenario was that they were bad parents. Bad doesn’t even begin to describe it. They by their action were more than happy to put all 3 children at risk simply because they wanted “adult” time.

    I have every sympathy in the world for Maddie she didn’t deserve whatever has happened to her. The McCann’s should have known better but they more than happy to put themselves and their wishes first ahead of 3 innocent defenceless children. I would say the opposite that you have to be a psycho to have any sympathy for them they don’t deserve it. If that sounds heartless and judgemental then so be it but that’s how I feel and that’s without then considering the other options as to what happened to Maddie.

    Imagine how i feel about paedophiles and the like.
     
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