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  1. RTB

    RTB Well-Known Member

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    https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/...6-2020/update-murder-investigation---reading/
    Counter Terrorism Policing can now confirm that the stabbing incident that happened in Reading last night (20/6), has now been declared a terrorist incident.
    Officers from Counter Terrorism Policing South East (CTPSE) have been working closely with Thames Valley Police’s Major Crime Department throughout the night.
    Deputy Assistant Commissioner Dean Haydon, Senior National Coordinator for the Counter Terrorism Policing network, has this morning declared the incident a terrorist incident, and CTPSE will be taking over the investigation.
    A 25-year-old man who was arrested on suspicion of murder last night, remains in police custody at this time.

    Counter Terrorism Policing will make a further statement later today.
    https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/reading-incident/
     
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  2. Perritts Parrot

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    There needs to be legislation brought in to stop these vids being put on social media. What the families are going through I can't get my head around. Put your fu*****phone down and help ffs. The authorities have the technology to find who put them on the net, do something about it. Sickening.
     
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  3. Chunksafc

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    To right, I stumbled across it on twitter trying to find out what was happening.

    Something I wish I could unsee
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    This is a double edged sword.

    Mobile phone footage is increasingly used as evidence by the police.

    If people were banned from sharing they wouldn't be so keen to whip their phones out.

    I have the handy knack of sensing trouble so will often start filming in the street if I get a sniff.

    I do agree things like this shouldn't be posted though.

    Incidentally, because an American was stabbed to death by a Libyan, will there be protests?
     
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  5. gelders pie

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    It’s an evil thing to do with no thought for the families. The only motivation I can think of is a self gratifying one that they actually believe that people will be envious of them for being “ the one who was there, who got the moment” , that they’ll be admired .
    Sick sick person
     
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  6. monty987

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    shocking news.
     
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  7. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

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    I agree with you about communities working together and focusing on making things better for themselves

    We have been informed by many that we live in an era of peace

    Statistically you are more likely to be struck by lightening (4x) than suffer a terror attack, yet the media screened into our living rooms strongly suggests otherwise and a narrow selection of online media - more so, ... but, what if you rarely go outside in the rain, what if you're a farmer? Risk also rises further if you live in central London compared to Chester-Le-Street. Stats can be relatively meaningless in this way particularly with this 'broad brush' approach.

    Yet it is true we are living in the most peaceful time in history, what is also true is that larger groups of organised people ie a city, does not equate to more violence (by number: yes, by proportion to population size: no), I concede the odds of a serious incident are higher in New York than New Zealand, nevertheless 'You've never had it so good'
     
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  8. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    Statistically you are more likely to be struck by lightening (4x) than suffer a terror attack,

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    Utter nonsense mate, you don't have to be the dead guy to have suffered the terror attack, and it makes the sentence even more bizarre.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Terrorism is perpetrated to make people irrationally fearful, that's the whole point.

    People always use this argument that you can just as easily be hit by a bus, struck by lightening, mauled to death by dogs.

    Yes I'm aware of all those dangers which is why I don't want being knifed to death added to the list.
     
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  10. Shameless

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    It is perpetuated through the media channels such as newspapers - this is The news which is also selective. We rely on very few individuals who in their part decide which news is more important

    I'm sure you have come across people with irrational fears and anxieties and they often stem from mainstream news

    We are less likely to be attacked violently today than at any time in history, generally *

    Footnote: depending on what you do and where you are
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

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    I'd be horrified if the media wasn't reporting innocent people being attacked by terrorists in the park.

    It's the terrorists that frighten people, not the papers.

    It's the fact that this ideology exists that concerns people. Being concerned about that is perfectly rational.
     
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  12. Shameless

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    I'm not saying that isn't news or released as a valid broadcast item

    However "innocent people being attacked by terrorists" sounds like a sensationalised newspaper headline and there are other ways of saying the same thing. Headlines and images grab attention and can relay a powerful message. Hate speech by politicians and the media has increased and both of these have been highlighted as a concern in recent independent reports
     
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  13. Perritts Parrot

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    How many died at the Manchester bombing? Now pray tell how many people in the whole of Britain died through lightening? You are determined to make yourself the biggest w***** on the internet.
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I see what you mean but, in all honesty, try to write it in a more mundane fashion, I doubt you can tbh.

    It's sensational because a terrorist attacked innocent people and knifed 3 of them to death.
     
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  15. Shameless

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    You miss the point ITV compete with BBC The Express competes with the Daily Mail and the Sun etc. Whatever you say the media loves to sensationalise
    I don't think that's entirely true at all
     
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  16. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

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    well i looked it up! (and cut out your stupid childish insults ^^ - that's better now)

    Number of UK deaths as a consequence of terrorism 2018-to-2020 = 5 dead: 18 injured
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Kingdom

    I dunno how that tallies with lightening strikes - I've done half the work why don't you look it up?

    Statistically, death by shark is higher too?
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    If I'm missing the point do what it says in bold to prove your point, should be easy from what you're saying. I'm well aware that the media is a competition but that doesn't mean some stories aren't sensational.

    "I see what you mean but, in all honesty, try to write it in a more mundane fashion, I doubt you can tbh."
     
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  18. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    Statistically, death by shark is higher too?

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    Its actually quite offensive writing crap like that. There will be a few people on here who know people directly who have been effected by a terrorism act.
     
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  19. Shameless

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    I'm being objective

    The risk to individuals does not match the 'culture of fear' whipped up by the media
     
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  20. Montysoptician

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    Try making the same argument from 2017-2020 and the picture will look completely different, "there are lies damned lies and statistics". A sample size can nearly always be manipulated to make a point.
     
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