BLM on shirts.

And the harem-scarem action took place after a moment's silence on the grid to reflect the fight against racism. All the drivers wore T-shirts saying 'end racism', but six of them - including Leclerc and Red Bull's Max Verstappen - chose not to join their 14 colleagues in taking the knee alongside Hamilton.

 

Glad they didn't bend down.

As for Hamilton wandering around this last week with a chain and lock round his neck - - - sodding pathetic.

 

the wearing of shirts emblems badges stating end racism is a far more potent means to attract attention to a subject that is a world wide multinational affair...
I am afraid Hamiltons attitude toward the present climate is a bit biased HE HAS been a bit quiet in the past re racism... has not been absent … but racism is not just black it is every where …… and not welcome in this world

 

Does he have a view on Mercedes past?? its eighty years ago but Hamilton supported Colstons statue being pulled down.

 

see the cricketers were advertising the correct way to catch the ball on the boundary ...

 

He's always been well balanced with a chip on both shoulders.
He plays the 'look at me I come from a disadvantaged background because of my colour' card, but NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH
Listening to other competitors back to the earliest days of carting, Hamilton had the best of everything equipment wise and once the likes of F1 came along he was given even more top end stuff which helped him stand head and shoulders above the others.
He's without doubt a very talented racing driver, and has rightly earned ten of millions from motor racing, but I've just never warmed to him and I never will.

 

Marxist and anti democratic BLM on shirts to be removed for No Room For Racism. the marxist salutes should follow.

 

I doubt half of those doing the BLM marches/taking a knee even have half a clue what Marxism is. Stop regurgitating the Daily Mail mate.

 

Reading BLM's own websites.

Sacha Johnson BLM leader the whiteman man will not be our equal but our slave.

More than time to stop kneeling for these weirdoes.

 

Do you not feel the facts of what BLM represent and their statements should not be shared by the media including the Mail?

 

I agree with freedom of expression, I just think that people aren't necessarily the best at deciphering what is fact and what is fiction. And unfortunately, in particular the Daily Mail and The Sun are full of absolute and provable lies, week in week out. And when they do so, they face absolutely no consequences, aside from maybe having to publish the odd apology buried deep within the paper.

And I'm not just saying that because I disagree with them. There are plenty of papers who's direction I disagree with but can at least accept that what they print is actually the truth. Take say, the Guardian and the Telegraph, both papers at differing ends of the spectrum, but they at least can back up what they write.

Aside from a very occasional scoop, I don't think the tabloids are ever a source for good or a source for truth. They're simply a source for sensationalism, feeding off the of the fact they face absolutely no consequences and ultimately profit from whatever generates the most hysteria, because that is what gets printed, rather than the truth.

I don't really see it as relevant to be honest. What's the point? If BLM are being violent then print that. If Hitler claimed he was a socialist, does that throw socialism under the bus? Everyone knows he wasn't really. It's not relevant, focus on the news that's happening.

What's more, there are elements of Marxism that are good and elements that are bad. There's absolutely zero chance of this country being overthrown and becoming some sort of Marxist state - it's just that Marxism is the latest buzzword for the right-wing to throw around. Reading people criticising X and Y as being 'Marxist' makes me cringe when you know more than half wouldn't have the foggiest idea of what they were talking about were they challenged on it.

 

Good post Rob but your wasting your time when your debating with the Katie Hopkins fan club.

 

Facts are relevant ..

Hitler was a Nationalist and Socialist. He was also a ethnat. His form of Socialism and Nationalism was evil. A case of all political ideology should examined. Including BLM Marxism and political aims.

Yes lets focus on the news. Shall we do America or the UK? BLM and their aims, the environments they are creating = News.

You have already stated it was irrelevant. Marxism has led to more deaths than Fascism. It is relevant.

Marxists can damage the UK. They are. In America this destabilization (its political revolutionary practice - Yuri Bezmenov) ) has led to political murders, rioting, looting .. BLM are fuelling and taking active roles in the insurrectionary violence.

It is not lazy. It is informed by BLM themselves.

 

Debate away. are BLM left or right? do you think BLM have extreme ideas? whats this got to do with Katie Hopkins?

 

The difference between left and right becomes negligible when talking about extremes.
A white supremacy activist is classed as right wing.
A black lives matter activist is classed as left wing.
They are really both the same - they see their colour as their main battle cry.
They are both just extremists to me and need to be marginalised rather than given centre stage.

 

Yeah I didn't mean to get into a debate over Marxism, I just meant it as an example. But I'd challenge your final bit, in that I don't think I'm denying anyone the right to express their views. I just think if the best 'sources' of news for the right wing are really the tabloids, then that really says it all doesn't it? They are well within their rights to print them, such is the freedom of expression. But we are also within our rights to mock their ridiculousness and to encourage people away from lies.

Even just this very day, the Express are claiming that the Tories plan to break international law is somehow a 'remainer plot'. Utterly, utterly false. Not a shred of fact in that. Add to that the Daily Mail claiming the EU want to ban selling eggs by the dozen, the Express claiming that the EU was banning school playgrounds. I'm sure I could use Google to find ten more just from the past week, it's that bad.

And once again, this is without bias. The Mirror is a left wing tabloid and is equally terrible. Fact is, we have far and away the least trusted media in Europe, and the consequences of printing lies are absolute zilch, seeing as there is no significant legal penalty for printing a lie and ruining a life. It wasn't until the phone hacking scandal occurred that it woke everybody up, and they let it blow over and implemented barely anything afterwards. The government has no interest in tightening the laws or implementing recommendations from Leveson because, until very, very recently, they were helping them get into and stay in government.

And that is exactly the problem. Through these papers Murdoch and his mates can push and influence policy. Just take this as a recent example - in the past months some of those being hit hardest by Covid now are the owners of commercial buildings, who are getting next to no rent as people work from home. London is a ghost town (I was there the other week), just imagine the amount of rent they are missing out on. Sheer millions. So what do they do to fix this? They guilt-trip people into going back to the office, risking their lives, and encourage people to go back to Pret and the like.



This isn't coincidence. It's contrived - they decide what policy they want to push beforehand and then spout it across their portfolio of publications. And during Brexit, that has mainly been immigration, immigration and immigration. And ultimately it's the tabloids that can get away with the most blatant examples of it, and with the most blatant lies if needed.

Never forget, Murdoch has never, ever lost an election. Every party his papers have backed have gone on to take Parliament. They have a massive influence on this country, and in particular the older generations. I'm all for reading papers, but the tabloids are just absolute crap.

And now my hands ache from typing .