Off Topic Sutcliffe

I've mentioned before, but back in the late 70's, I was told by a nurse from a hospital he frequented about his habits with patients of all ages, staff and his unnatural interest in the mortuary. They had reported it to their bosses. If a no-mark like me knew back then, a pound to a pinch of dog **** those at the top knew.

 

Didn’t thatcher think he was marvellous and her aides tried to tell her but she wouldn’t have it?
Just typing her name might get the thread locked so remove if so Dutch

 

Don't think she was aware of it. Lots of people were aware in Scarborough what Peter Jaconelli was up to but, despite what many claim now, no one mentioned Savile. The general thought was that he was an asexual mummy's boy with no interest in sex.

 

Including his BBC bosses?

 

I have no idea about that. I do recall a Hull lady called Dianne Core started a telephone help line where children could call up and talk about the abuse they were suffering. This brought out some serious issues with high ranking people.

She was hounded and ridiculed and accused of all sorts of things to discredit her, and eventually the telephone lines were taken over by the BBC and Esther Rantzen.

 

Ye I wonder what happened to her.
I do remember somewhere about jan knoss and it was the headmistress of Court Park a Miss so and so and the deputy head who ended up patrolling OPE as the police weren’t interested. They were told two men in a cab were driving round the estate bundling kids in.
I can’t find the article
But think the deputy head went in to work in child protection. I always thought it was lovely a headmistress who was a spinster had so much care for the kids she would do that

 

Why didn't they know when so many claim they did?

 

Margaret Thatcher repeatedly pressed for Jimmy Savile to be knighted despite warnings from senior advisers that his lifestyle meant he was unsuitable, previously secret Cabinet Office papers have revealed.

The then Prime Minister was told that Savile’s public boasts of his sexual promiscuity and other “unfortunate revelations about his private life” meant he was not suitable to be knighted.

 

It seems she's an author.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dianne-Core/e/B00JEIGZR6/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1

 

My brother and I were never allowed to write in to Jim'll Fix It in the 1980s due to my mum's opinions on Savile. She used to work in Scarborough in summers round the late 60s and early 70s. In the first two accommodation places she stayed at, different landladies warned her and her friends not to go to any parties that involved Jaconelli or Savile "though boys are more Jaconelli's thing". She later found out that a group of landladies knew what was going on and tried to steer impressionable youths away from them. She explained all this to me long before the revelations about him broke. I also know someone who was groped by Rolf Harris!

 

I spent a lot of time in Scarborough and New a fair few Scarborough lads. As .I said they knew about Jaconelli. One, with long wavy hair, who liked like Peter Frampton, used to go in his cafe fluttering his eyelashes at him and tossing his locks about. Used to leave without having g to pay. As Jaconelli did with other pretty games. Dangerous games to play with a 23 stone, not tall but as broad as he was tall, black belt looking back on it. None of them mentioned Savile. Maybe it was just older ones who seemed aware of Savile?

 

He got his first award, an OBE, on the recommendation of the departing PM James Callaghan.
Presumably Thatcher recommended him as he got his knighthood under Major the year after Thatcher left office.

Boasts about sexual promiscuity don't seem to have held back Sir Mick Jagger and others...

 

The Nolan Sisters knew his MO and even reported him or refused to appear on TotP if he was there, or both. BBC bosses looked the other way. Saville knew where the bodies were buried!

 

Did you pick that out of Chris Chilton's Benefit Match programme by any chance ? (inside back cover).

 

Good call DMD..

 

My mum worked summers in Scarborough for four years from the age of 15 along with her older sister, rolling rock or working in cafe bars. I think this would have been from 69 to 72. As I say, she always prevented my brother and I from writing into Jim'll Fix It - a rite of passage for any child of the 80s - and then when we were watching a programme with him on a few years later - would have been early 90s, I think - she told us why. I remember her seeing a report on Jaconelli trying to stop public drinking in Scarborough some time in the 80s and 90s and swearing at the TV because of what a hypocrite this made him.

At a dinner party at my in-laws house just after the news of Savile broke with that ITV documentary, my mum was talking about her experiences in Scarborough and a friend of my parents-in-law said "You know who'll be next, Rolf Harris". No one had ever heard anything about Rolf other than him being this cuddly lovely bloke, so everyone sort of frowned at her. She then explained how they were out for a meal with him - they had a mutual friend - he was great company all night, then when it came time to say goodbye he groped her in a particularly grim way. Lo and behold, not long after he's arrested...

Regarding the politicisation of all of this (elsewhere in this thread) you'll find both senior Conservative and Labour politicians with links to Savile and others of his ilk. This isn't a left or right thing, just something that we cannot let happen again as a society. The privileged and people who've risen to positions of power have been allowed to exploit the vulnerable for far too long under governments of both sides. I think trying to blame 'the other side' can weaken what's important - that these ****ers are stripped of this layer of protection and get what's coming to them.

 

Yes that's where the pics from and I'm sure Chillo has the measure of the creep even then.