City Hall of Fame

We should have well over 100 in the HoF by now - after all we;ve been going 119 years, and had some great managers, stalwarts, goalkeepers, captains and goalscorers in all that time.

Choose Barmby , Windass or Carter- gtf.

 

Well I work with what they give me. My next piece is a giant Premier League symbol made out of discarded season pass cards. I call it "The Jim Bowen".

 

'Some' would claim you're more of a Humphrey Lyttleton/Jack Dee type.
I couldn't possibly comment.

 

I do have a face like a forgotten tunnel.

 

I voted for Carter only because I think you should dead before you enter our HOF .

 

You forgot Simon Walton.

*cue ban from OLM*

 

The Hull City Southern Supporters started running one before the club started this one. It's voted on my all members, with four committee's choice inductees (less heralded people but deserving associated with the club who we select at our AGM). We had an initial inductee list of 21, and have added to it over the years. We'll continue to do this. If you're interested, the inductees are:

Ken Wagstaff
Ian Ashbee
Chris Chilton
Dean Windass
Raich Carter
Billy Whitehurst
Stuart Elliott
Justin Whittle
Nick Barmby
Billy Bly
Warren Joyce
Phil Brown
Andy Dawson
Adam Pearson
Tony Norman
Garreth Roberts
Andy Davidson
Harold Needler
Keith Edwards
Peter Taylor
Les Mutrie*
Geovanni
Ken Houghton
Jimmy Lodge
Ambrose Langley
Pete Skipper
Tom Wilson*
John Cooper*
Gary Brabin
George Maddison
Ian Butler
Viggo Jensen
Brian Horton
Boaz Myhill
Don Robinson*

* denotes a committee's choice induction. We'll do one more of them next year, as well as two more general vote inductions. Players have to have retired to be eligible and managers/other staff have to have been away from the club for more than five years. Which is why Steve Bruce isn't in there. For now.

 

Bit surprising Cliff Britton didn't get a nod - some quite successful seasons & teams under his tenure ?

 

Jeff Radcliffe earn a shout?

 

Good point that.

 

Anyone else read that as house of fun??

 

Jeff was one vote off getting the Committee's Choice last time out. Would imagine he'll be in there before long. Cliff Britton has always been in the shortlist but never quite received enough votes. I'd personally have him in there above one or two inductees but that's the beauty of these things.

 

If it was to be a serious meritocratic list I would expect to see more early players added:

Tommy Browell
Gordon Wright
Jackie Smith
Davy Gordon
George Rushton
George Spence
Patrick O'Connell
Bill McNaughton
Matt Bell
Jack Bielby
David Mercer
Stan Fazackerley
Ryan France
Jay Jay Okocha
Nikica Jelavic

I would expect to see a lot more from 2010-2020 when the dust settles, some of the very best of all time among those

It's a fascinating topic - I suggested Jay Jay because I think he's the most naturally gifted player I've seen playing for the club, but I would agree we saw nothing like what he was capable of.

I would disagree with the inclusion of Brabin as I think he doesn't tick enough boxes.

Would expect to see Robertson, Huddz & maybe even Hernandez in there in future years..

 

I would say it's a serious meritocratic list, as everyone who's there deserves to be there. Brabin in particular. Having now spoken to a large percentage of his Great Escape team mates, they pretty much all say the same thing: Brabs was the main on-pitch reason why we stayed up. That half-season was the most important half-season in our history, and Brabs was the most important player within it. Had we gone down that season, who knows what would have happened given who our owners were? I'd say that Brabs is seriously deserving of his place within that list.

I agree on many of the pre-war players: Wright, Smith, Bell, McNaughton, Gordon. I would add Sammy Stevens, Paddy Mills and Tommy Bleakley too. We do try to skew it so that pre-war players find a route in, and I think we'll continue to do that (looking at other football clubs' halls of fame, pre-war players tend to always be under-represented). We've never had O'Connell as an option, however, as the hall is meant to be about what the inductees did for Hull City. I think O'Connell played 50-odd games for us and was never considered to be a particularly notable player. It's only what he did afterwards that marks him out.

Speaking of which, I wouldn't have Okocha in there either. Going from memory, I think he played 18/19 games for us, eight or nine of which were as a sub (sometimes coming on in the 90th minute too). He was amazing in some games (Wolves, Ipswich, West Brom) but he stunk the place out in others (Southampton, QPR). I know he did a lot to raise the club's image and sense of what is possible. I know it was incredibly exciting having him in a City shirt. I just don't think he did enough when his on-pitch contribution is coldly analysed. But then I know that supporting a football club is an emotional thing, and cold analysis is for boring b******s. Personally, I'd have Jobbo and Billy Askew in there, but that's because they were my two favourite players when I fell in love with City.

As for players from the decade just passed, it will be interesting. We've had Liam Rosenior, Robert Koren and David Meyler in the shortlist of the last couple of votes and they've done well but not quite well enough (Jelavic isn't retired yet so can't be included). I'd imagine that James Chester will be a shoo-in, as well as Tom Huddlestone and Robertson. They, along with the likes of Steve Bruce, Curtis Davies, Elmo, Hernandez, McGregor and co, will certainly be options. That said, there are still the other names mentioned above, along with the likes of Doug Clarke, Brian Bulless, Bill Bradbury, Frank Banks and co too. It's certainly fascinating topic, as you say, and everyone would have a different list of names. There is no right or wrong, really.

 

I’d say Elmo gets a raw deal.
most games played in the PL for us isn’t he?
Can’t for the life of me understand why rosenoir is in the list of nominees, apart from his good pr.

 

Would you guys say Pedersen is HOF Worthy?

 

No

 

We have Warren Joyce and Justin Whittle from the 'Great Escape', both more instrumental in staying in the league than GB (imo). ( Some elements in our support revel in the FER ARK thing- a decrepit old ground and a failing team losing to club from smaller towns and cities).

GB and O' connell both played 58 games for us , with POC captaining his country with distinction in 1914 when Ireland beat England to win the Hime International championship.

Will be a real dilemma when the 2010-2020 era players are eligible. Most of the best players the club has ever had were in this era, but some never endeared themselves due to footbal's current money obsession.

I give you Mo Diame; a Rolls Royce of a player, scorer of a great goal at Wembley to get us up to the PL but who jumped ship for the Geordie dollar.

Some tough calls....