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Off Topic London Calling: Summer Holidays Abroad 2021 in doubt?

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  1. Draig

    Draig Well-Known Member

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    And reading stuff like this won’t help either

    https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-55668923
     
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    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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  4. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    This is every single day we are hearing stories like this. If the government are setting the rules and the public won't listen, that's not the governments fault, imo.

    This has been happening from day one. Long before Dominic Cummins went for a drive :emoticon-0138-think

    The good news is our transmission rate has kept dropping over this last week and we now have the 'R' number below 1, which is critical in stopping the spread of the virus. Deaths are still high but that's understandable as that will always lag a few weeks behind infection and hospitalisation rates. I believe we now have over 10% of the population vaccinated with our world leading vaccination roll out.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Would you say it had no effect in making things worse?
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    This endless dialogue about people's 'mental health' is becoming tiresome and gives out a handy excuse. Being pissed off with being confined is quite normal, not abnormal.
     
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  7. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    You can tell you're old. This post stinks of ignorance.

    There's been a higher rate of suicide than normal during the pandemic/lockdown.
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    No, I don't think it had an effect in making things worse. You have blown this up out of all proportion.

    Lots of advisors and MP's broke the guidelines. I don't think none of them made things worse.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    I'm blowing nothing up, just saying it's had an effect.

    A fifth of Britons are following the lockdown rules less strictly than before – with a third of those citing Dominic Cummings’ actions as a factor, a survey has indicated.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ecline-lockdown-compliance-poll-a9546286.html
     
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  10. DH4

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    Of course it affected people following the rules. If those that make the rules don't practice what they preach then there is no gravitas to them. If those in power don't think that following the rules is all that important, the "great unwashed" will follow suit.
     
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  12. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    So 7% of 2,000 people from a population of over 66 million. I'd hazard a guess that the 7% are against the Tories and surveys like this give them a chance to score political points.

    Do you have any surveys that show the impact of what MP's breaking the rules had on the public?
     
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  13. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    BREXIT :emoticon-0115-inlov

    Project Fear has completely collapsed.

    In the run-up to the 2016 EU referendum, the Remain campaign’s Project Fear went into overdrive. A vote for Brexit would lead to catastrophe for the UK, it claimed. We were told it might even unleash supergonorrhea or a third world war.

    After Leave won, the scaremongering intensified even further. Anti-democrats screeched that Brexit was an obvious disaster and it had to be stopped.
    But Britain has now left the EU and these disasters have not materialised.

    Brexit will cause economic collapse

    Remainers were certain Brexit would devastate the UK economy. In the run-up to the 2016 referendum, we were told that just voting to Leave would cause a recession. Then chancellor George Osborne said Brexit would make us ‘permanently poorer’, as a conveyor-belt of experts told tales of the coming financial disaster.

    But it was a myth. The UK did not enter recession after Brexit, until a major pandemic intervened. And even despite a harsh Covid lockdown, the UK economy is expected to outperform the economies of many EU member states in the next 15 years. Analysis by the Centre for Economics and Business Research predicted in December that UK GDP will be 23 per cent larger than French GDP by 2035. So much for Brexit Britain becoming an economic backwater.

    Brexit will force Nissan to close its Sunderland plant

    Much of Remainers’ conviction that Brexit would trash the economy stemmed from their belief that businesses would evacuate the UK in the event of a Leave vote. In particular, they were adamant that Japanese car manufacturer Nissan would close its Sunderland plant. Customs disruption, they said, would force the company to look elsewhere, putting thousands of jobs at risk. Remoaners mocked working-class voters in Sunderland who voted Leave as dupes voting to destroy their own jobs.

    Last year, when reports spread appearing to confirm this expectation, Remainers were overjoyed. But the reports turned out to be fake news. Nissan has now embarassed Remoaners by confirming the long-term future of the plant, promising to bring more jobs to Sunderland and even saying Brexit is a ‘positive’ for the company.

    Russia rigged the EU referendum in favour of Brexit

    One of the most absurd Remainer myths was the claim that a Russian conspiracy lay behind Brexit. Cambridge Analytica, an English data firm supposedly linked to Russia, was said to have determined the result of the Referendum by manipulating social-media users with pro-Brexit ads. Prominent Leave figures such as Arron Banks were accused of being Kremlin stooges. Desperate to delegitimise a democratic vote, the likes of Carole Cadwalladr tried to rebrand Brexit as the end of democracy – and won journalism prizes for doing so.

    But it has all fallen apart. Last year, Elizabeth Denham, the UK information commissioner, concluded her three-year investigation into the issue and found ‘no further evidence to change [her] earlier view’ that Cambridge Analytica was ‘not involved in the EU referendum campaign’. Indeed, she said, there was no ‘additional evidence of Russian involvement’ at all. The Remainers’ McCarthyite meltdown was based on nothing.

    Opting out of the EU vaccine programme will be a disaster

    More recently, the government was attacked when it chose not to join in the EU’s vaccine distribution scheme in July. Lib Dem health spokeswoman Munira Wilson said it was ‘unforgivable’. Fellow Lib Dem Layla Moran cried that the Tories were prioritising ‘Brexit over vaccines’. Once again, Remoaners sighed, Little Englander isolationism was ruining everything.

    These claims have not aged well. The EU has floundered on vaccination as Britain has raced ahead. The UK approved the Pfizer vaccine well before the EU (which has still not approved the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab). The UK has now administered significantly more doses of Covid vaccines than any other European country. As the British distribution programme approaches an impressive half-a-million jabs per day, the EU’s efforts have been hampered by further delays. Taking back control of our vaccines was clearly the right thing to do.

    Remainers’ predictions of doom have turned out to be baseless. Britain is perfectly capable of running its own affairs – and better off outside the EU.

    There's some on here still want us to believe that Nissan workers are going to suffer because of Brexit :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    Apparently Boris and Co did everything they could to stop it. Like paying us to go out, telling us to go back into city centres, shaking hands with patients, allowing large gatherings like horse racing and international football events to go on, continuing international travel, making schools open in south London pre Christmas against public health advice, giving the test and trace system to an accountant to run etc
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Ah right I get it now.

    Any surveys or media reports you don't agree with are subversive and incorrect.

    But anything, from the media, you post is 100% accurate.

    Perhaps the 100,000 dead are actually suicides who took their own lives to discredit blameless Boris.
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Whatever happened to test and trace ...
     
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    Apparently it is a fine line of protecting public health, and protecting the economy.Not only do we have the worst death rates in Europe, but our economy has also had the biggest recession in Europe. Takes some special level of ineptitude to **** it up both ways.
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I'll have to pull you up there,.

    It's all the fault of the public, the government are blameless ...

    ... or perhaps the scientists are to blame, the French, Corbyn, the media or anyone but Boris.

    For Boris just read 'Rafa' and remember he can do no wrong in the eyes of his disciples.
     
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  19. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    We are both blinded by our agendas when it comes to taking sides...
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I'm not blinded because I don't have a side.

    I just want to feel whichever government we have is looking after us ...

    ... I honestly believe they've let us down as these terrible figures clearly show.

    I'm not trying to win an argument, or change minds, just voicing my disappointment.

    I started off supporting Boris Johnson and hoped he'd make the country a better place. Of course I would, it's my country, only an idiot would want things to go wrong just to prove a point. I feel we've been let down by endless dithering and delays.

    I'm not angry, just deflated.
     
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