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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by RedorDead, Feb 20, 2021.

  1. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    I was underwhelmed with SCs appointment - and proved wrong - but it was right he went when he did
    I was underwhelmed with LJs appointment - and he did much better than I personally expected - but it was right he went when he did
    I was underwhelmed with DHs appointment - and proved right (sadly) - he should never have been appointed.
    I am excited about Pearson - but will it happen? Still nothing on the OS
     
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  2. Supcon72

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    I was the opposite, I saw this as a great progressive appointment of someone who had the experience and success in the third tier. I know it didn't work out for him the Championship, for whatever reason, as it doesn't for many managers when promoted up a level, but I do wonder why no other club in the third tier who were serious about promotion went in for him after us? I know there were rumours of him being a bit of a bully boy and my way or the highway attitude, so maybe that was more widely known in football circles, so they steered clear. Much the same happened to GJ after he left us amid the same type of rumours, he never got a look in at any decent club since.
     
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  3. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    My understanding is with GJ and SC, there was more going on.

    I understand GJ had lost the dressing room over a very specific incident.

    With SC he never lost the dressing room he remained popular with the players, but again there was something specific and nothing to do with the playing or coaching side of things.
     
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  4. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    You mean he fell out with SL ?
     
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  5. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    SC did and it might well account for LJ's childish decision not to shake hands with him.

    With GJ SL tried his very best to appease the dressing room (over the incident) but they were not having any of it.
     
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  6. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    And RR constantly telling us hoof ball is coming and to keep looking up to see the ball.
     
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  7. Supcon72

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    Only LJ will know why he didn't, I'm sure in his mind, he has his reasons, but it was not a good look for LJ.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35151703

    Nothing here to suggest SL wanted SC out for anything other than football reasons, or he could have done it much earlier. The truth is we will never know, and everyone has their opinion, and it's just that an opinion, not necessarily fact.
     
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  8. Jiffie

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    If only that were true, I can assure you it was far, far deeper than that, I can also assure that LJ would have been well aware of those reasons and those reasons were why we ended up with Ashton.

    There was no way he could have done it earlier because of the cult status SC had achieved by then and I believe SC was counting on that to save him and SL was hoping that he had not left things too late.

    Let me put it this way, the reasons for poor results was poor recruitment, the reason for waiting for the poor results to become a reason to sack him, was because the truth would have been an embarrassment to the club had been in the public domain.
     
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  9. Supcon72

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    Do tell, you seem to be far more "in the know" than anyone else on this forum on this topic? All I see was a manager not meeting SL's expectations and getting the chop, as LJ and now DH have done, I'm very interested to know why it was different for SC?
     
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  10. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    In his interview I got the impression that SL reads the social media sites because he referred to them on a couple of occasions. Could it be possible that the trending on social media towards finally hiring a manager with experience such as Nigel Pearson was a factor in his decision? He looked like a chastened man during his interview and maybe, just maybe, we are heading for a brighter future? I haven't felt this upbeat about my club for many years and part of my disappointment was down to our apparent refusal to accept that we had to hire much better people to run the football side of Bristol Sports, and now we probably have dumped that philosophy.

    Onwards and upwards?
     
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  11. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    I have sent you a PM.
     
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  12. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    You can all thank me, for sending this message to Steve
     
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  13. wizered

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    Thanks ROD, you're amazin' <whistle>
     
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  14. RedorDead

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    Cheers wiz, I was getting worried RR ruined it, by being premature (his wife must be really gutted) but Steve told me he’s blocked him <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  15. remembergou

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    Mr Lansdown has tried to give credence to players and staff at the club to look forward to promotion up the ladder. This is a trait followed by many major companies, like the one he co founded. The promise is and was work hard, learn your skills and you will be rewarded. Maybe finance and other industries that would, and does work, but not in football. I saw a mention it is until the end of the season? does that mean he needs to keep us up or he will leave, or we can say not in top six, sorry and look again. We also have to proven coach's? ex England will we ditch them?
     
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  16. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    If Pearson does the business, is offered the job full time from the start of next season and onwards, then he may well decide he wants to bring in his own coaches from previous managerial roles. If he gets on well with the 2 coaches that are here already and worked under Holden then he may decide that they can do a job for him moving forwards. All ifs and buts for the time being I guess.
     
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  17. Jiffie

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    The first priority is to steady the ship and try to start to pick up enough points to ensure our safety.

    As for the coaches, I haven't seen any improvement in any player, I haven't seen our ability to defend set pieces improve, I haven't seen our midfield improve from a physical, fitness, skill, organisational or creative perspective. The word from fans of clubs that he has managed is the package of him, Shakespeare and Walsh is a good and tried and tested one.

    That is not a criticism by the way, Simpson for me alluded to Holden not really addressing the physicality side of our midfield, maybe they were just following orders. Time will tell.

    For me it's good that Pearson has seen the potential at the club as a whole, as to whether he stays will be down to a lot of different criteria, of course if he does too well he might have bigger and better suitors. It's about time we had a manager with pedigree at this level and who will command the respect of his players and who is quite rightly the highest paid person at the club and not players who struggle to hold down a first team place.
     
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  18. realred1952

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    it came very quickly after the "tunnel event" did it not involve loud swearing and SL had stated previously about making games a pleasant place for families to turn up for and a number of "younger fans were in earshot"
    ROD .. note this is an observation not insider info :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  19. BCFCRob

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    Didn't he allegedly have Sproule by the throat in the tunnel? Or am I making that up?
     
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  20. RedorDead

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    GJ did at Plymouth away match
     
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