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On the road to Fleetwood

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  1. fieldmarshall

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    An hour gone and not a single shot on target, tippy tappy meaningless football in our own half, lightweight midfield, and we haven't even had a corner kick, no pace and no pressure, Judge and Dozzell I had forgotten were even on the pitch and Parrot and Jackson pathetic, what a balls up.
     
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  2. San Diego

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    Ward gets a shot on goal.
     
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  3. San Diego

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    Judge has seen enough of the ball, he has ballsed up everything he's done though.
    We are weak through the middle, weak down the sides, weak up front....not a great combination.
     
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  4. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    I’m only seeing commitment from one set of players. Disappointing that we haven’t even made a game of it.
     
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    Useless Judge with a pass back to Nsiala after a throw in in the Fleetwood full back area.
     
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  6. Southcoastoldgaffer

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    Bet Evans wish he had done the deal. Call to Phoenix in the morning.
     
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  7. fieldmarshall

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    You would think after scraping into 6th place the boys would be giving it all to try and close the gap on those above us, also trying to impress PC but there's nothing, no fight, no passion, no creativity, no spirit and continually giving the ball away this is so unbelievably poor.
     
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    Yeah, some goal action in the 6th minute of injury time!
     
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  9. San Diego

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    That was ****. We only showed the slightest sign of urgency in the final 5 minutes.

    Poor all over the park and the subs couldn't change the flow of the game either.
     
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  10. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    This has always been an issue with certain players. Paul Lambert would have accepted that performance and probably come out and said we played well. They need to get used to it not being acceptable.
     
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    Anyone know why Matheson has not even been on the bench at all? Is he injured?
    Surely time for him instead of captain calamity...and also no CB cover on the bench...in fact only one defender on the subs bench which seems rather odd to me
     
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  12. Nuggets

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    Passive, complacent, mentally and physically weak, aimless, sedate, gormless, comfortable, plodding, and cowardly. No leadership on the pitch. Nobody grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck. We need a new keeper next season. We need full-backs that can push forward (we’ve got one on loan, but he doesn’t play). We need players comfortable on the ball and willing to get forwards. We need creativity. We need goalscorers. We don’t need has-been and never-has-beens in the starting eleven.

    Cook has his work cut out and would arguably prefer training sessions to games to undo the terrible coaching the likes of Lambert and Hurst inflicted. Hopefully tonight’s performance has shown him some things about these players. We had a chance to put a bit of distance between us and the play off chasing pack. Cook comes across as so enthusiastic and passionate, so the question is do these players react well to that? Do they even care?

    The squad needs a clear out and that includes the likes of Chambers, Skuse, Sears, and Ward. The first three have been cut so much slack over the years due to their perceived loyalty and service. It’s time to say thanks and goodbye. I wouldn’t have any of them anywhere near our future squads in a coaching capacity. What the hell are they going to impart to the next generation of players here? Hope to pass the ball backwards, lump it upfield, and lose football matches? No thanks.
     
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  13. Roystonblue

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    The 1 thing I would say that is good about Chambers is the way he looks after himself. Considering the volume of injuries we’ve had over the last 5 years or so, he seems to keep himself in very good condition. Certain players (norwood for example) could learn how to prepare from him. Other than that, as most of us expected, Cook has a massive job over the summer. Squad needs reducing massively in numbers but need better players - quality over quantity. Would agree that goalkeeper and full back positions need to be looked at urgently. We also need a striker other than Norwood who can score some goals and lead the line
     
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  14. itfcptc

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    Well I certainly feel justified now in saying the squad isn't as good as everybody thinks it is. We really lack players who have skill, drive and physicality bar Norwood and Downes and maybe Edwards (if he can find the early season form) very few of our players would get in many of the promotion chasing teams in the division.

    Completely agree about Chambers and Skuse, neither appear to be bad eggs but both embody that lack of aspiration the club has shown over the past few years.

    I actually think Sears would've played better upfront than Jackson. Jackson is okay at this level with a partner upfront but brings nothing playing upfront on his own, movement is poor, touch awful. I'd imagine if you put Nsiala upfront he'd cause more problems. At least Sears has good movement but as others have said maybe put Parrot up there instead.

    Whilst saying all this I think we do still need to be careful about chucking the baby out with the bathwater and getting rid of loads of our players. Unless we get promoted which despite tonight's performance is a possibility we're unlikely to be able to attract players of equal quality. Whatever happens Paul Cook has a hard job as did Lambert before him. Let's not forget PR Paul had fans lapping it up to start off with and whilst I do think PC is a better manager and the best we could have hoped for this situation feels all too similar
     
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  15. San Diego

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    Cook said a lot about at that performance in his post match without really saying it, if you get what I mean. He was positive in saying that it's no use laying into the players publicly as we can all see how the match went and that they needed his help instead. We can all see what he really wanted to say but chooses to frame it to the media that the group need help to escape the malaise that surrounds the team and I think that's good management at this time. Pretty sure it will be different in private though.

    Cook has had barely any proper training sessions yet to make the tactical changes he wants to and he's just tried to keep us ticking over because we had some form. He'll not be pleased with the lack of desire shown tonight though. You don't need training sessions to play with urgency and passion but that was very much a typical Ipswich performance today and a few players will have to be dropped if we want to turn the corner.
     
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    Shame Donacien wasn't allowed to play against us, I was kind of looking forward to seeing how he's doing. Surely a better option than Chambers at RB. And am I right that Connolly is on loan at Fleetwood from Everton but he is the captain? Anybody else know of a loan player who was captain of the team?
     
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    I'm sure given the amount of loan players we've had the past few years we must've at some point had one
     
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    We were dire last night, creating nothing of note, after a run of good defensive performances, we were very poor defensively last night fro the outset, and such cheap goals to give away. It was one of the performances I can remember. And it cost me a tenner!

    In my view its not a reflection on Cook. He desparately needs free days to coach & talk and motivate. He actually eeds a long off-season window to have an impact on a squad that is devoid of any confidence and appears all too willing to accept failure. Spineless, clueless, no leadership, no guts. I would drop Chambo with a gesture, and half the current team.

    As we have said, we do have some good players but we also have obvious blatant weaknesses.
    Many of them were visible yesterday. 3 or 4 of our back 5 aren’t good enough, we can’t continue to play Dozzell defensively. We don’t have a wide man of the right calibre, having tried at least 3 now. And we dont have a striking, scoring goals for fun forward. Certainly not in a lone role.

    So Cook has hinted at big changes, and lets hope the normal once a week game will allow him to insyill some discipline and nous before its too late. For too long lt looks like we’re trying to force something we don’t really have the players for at the moment. I would much rather see us with 2 up front, going a little more direct and trying to bully teams a bit more. Like we did the previous game for the first 25 mins.We’ve looked more comfortable doing that.

    At least it has given a shocking revealing display of how bad we can be!
     
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    I agree with the defence...had some ok performances, but we're not solid enough. I'd drop Chambers and give Matheson a go, and switch Tonto with Wolfy, and also give Ward a few games head of Kenlock, to add some experience back there.
    Midfield i'd go with Bish and Dozy in the middle, with Bennetts and Lanky out wide, and play Troy n Norwood/Sears up top

    Anyone know about Luke Thomas, is he injured? Looked half decent when he played
     
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  20. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    PTC - on the basis of one performance we can’t say we’re not good enough. We have seen much better.

    Nuggets - don’t agree about the ‘keeper, not one of the weakest points. We could improve everywhere but not all at the same time.

    On Skuse - I think he’s the best player we have in that position and Skuse CDM / Bishop CAM is our strongest central midfield. He needs time to get up to speed and if Dozzell and Skuse are in that midfield there’s no energy and no drive.

    On Matheson and Thomas - we just have too many players I think. I’d rather have Matheson in but we had been keeping clean sheets so you don’t change the defence in that scenario.

    Encouraged by Cook’s post match comments. At least if he can see the reality we have a chance of improving it.

    He has to take full responsibility for the result though. Having no one on the posts is the manager’s responsibility and that’s what’s ultimately cost us. Not adapting to the windy conditions - also his responsibility although he has so much work to do and is still learning about his players.
     
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