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BREAKING NEWS: EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by moreinjuredthanowen, Apr 18, 2021.

  1. Nozzer

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    Also might have meant more coming before the other clubs started pulling out, though to be fair the Position has been clear since last night.
     
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    Probably didn't use the right words here.

    What I meant was, had we pulled out first, it would have shown we'd done it because of the footballing world reaction, because of the fans reaction, because of the players, coaches, mangers etc not wanting it. Now others have pulled out, it's a case of 'we can't do that now anyway'.

    I will say though, even pulling out first, they're still massive ****s that I doubt want at my club anymore. Problem is, if they left there would be someone else with the same mentality replacing them <doh>
     
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    To be honest, I'm torn. Up until Sunday evening I was happy with FSG. They put us on a sound financial footing, increased our revenues and global reach, redid part of the stadium and laid the basis for us becoming English, European and world Champions. Yes they're businessmen and they're American, but at least they're not sportswashing. They've made some tone-deaf decisions but have quickly backed down in the face of fan pressure to generally keep them on the straight and narrow. Overall, they're not perfect but that's a model and relationship I can fairly happily live with. I can think of far worse.

    If they back out now, then I guess that sticks to the Modus operandi. But if if they really did expect this Level of uproar and wanted to See it out, I.e. essentially told the fans where to go, then's hard to See the relationship being repaired.

    Trophies would help ease the pain though...
     
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    True but tbf, we had a game last night that supposedly required their full concentration <laugh>
     
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    I was 100% in FSG corner until Sunday. This isn't their first attempt at this kind of **** though, should have learnt the first time.
     
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    It's not a long statement - they could have put it on some t-shirts.<whistle>
     
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    Fact is they've been in charge for 11 years. At what point do they stop making stupid decisions.

    They keep forgetting the fans.

    Think they've got to decide if football is for them, instead of trying to change it to fit them.
     
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  8. Nozzer

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    I assume you mean isn't their first attempt, and agreed. More to the point, it means they'd probably try it again. Question is, if it really does fold this quickly, is the idea going to be viable in future? And if it isn't, are FSG going to be happy with the current business model, i.e. was the ESL a bonus to the model or essential to it?
     
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    If the fans keep reminding them then overall it doesn't work out too badly. Put ideas out there - those that get heavily moaned at are reversed, the others stick. It's a cynical model but it worked ok until last week.
     
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    Yeah, meant isn't. And yes, can we're trust them going forward? I've no doubt they'll take this as a learning curve and try a different angle next time
     
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    Not really, there have been several dispute between FSG and fans in those eleven years
     
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    That’s a defo ffs lmao
     
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    Thing is, these owners could make lots more money in a way fans will support if they wanted; get a world wide player salary cap in place. Stop paying players £500k per week. Would need top figure out how to cap rather fees too though <confused>

    PS... fans would (rightly) expect cheaper tickets though
     
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    But how many did FSG win? On most of the big ones they ultimately backed down.
     
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    But higher wages is how they keep their distance to lower clubs. And they would probably just find ways around it.
     
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    Shaun Wright Phillips has congratulated city and chelsea... <doh>
     
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    Haven't UEFA entered discussions with a big bank about remodeling the CL in a different format in response to this ESL debacle? If they have and it's acceptable to each national FA or whoever then the Super League mafia can claim job done.

    Regardless, I'm done with FSG.
     
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    Considering this had been a short season, it's felt like it's gone on for an age.

    **** show after **** show.

    Injuries to key players, players obviously ****ed, players not right mentally.

    Dire games, with no crowd, no atmosphere.

    A horrific campaign with some truly terrible results.

    A poor league, with poor quality games, very little passion.

    ****ing var sucking the life out of me, mindless descions, taking hours to deliberate, I cant believe we've debated where a players shirt sleeve ends.

    It's been a ****e season and I thought it couldnt possibly get worse

    FSG Hove into view shouting hold my beer.

    ****ing unbelievable
     
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    Is that ex-Man City and Chelsea player Shaun Wright Phillips?
     
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  20. InBiscanWeTrust

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    You make it sound like he’s biased?!
     
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