Match Day Thread Vs Man Utd (A)

Over more than 150 years, even though there have been changes here and there to the competitions one thing has remained. No one has prevented any team from reaching the top or competing in the very top competition. In an ESL Leicester would not have competed. West Ham coming 4th would have no chance. Arsenal in 9th would have a guaranteed place for several decades. The CL or Europa (their equivalent) would be second rate.

 

Thankyou for reiterating the same **** that has been repeated ad nauseum for the past 2 weeks

 

You are welcome. That’s exactly the **** that’s worth fighting for. Not the American style entertainment factor of watching PSG against Dortmund which without real competition would become extremely boring after repetition. Worth telling your kids that?

 

You're right, it is controversial

 

Not really, considering we've being playing utd for eons but I'm fairly sure everyone gets a bit worked up for that, but I can't remember the same furore when we play crystal Palace.

I'm fairly sure that winning the league counts as competition, of the teams that would form the new league, apart from City which are probably not in much danger now when where they last relegated.

Or are we happy with 4th as something to aim for?

 

It's been no different for weeks. Good luck to west ham, but city, utd, Leicester and chavs have top 4 wrapped up

 

This is exactly what counts as real competition IMO. We play the palaces of this world to get the points and to move up the league. Every match is meaningful as each win means 3 points. At the end you win more points than everyone and you are champions. If you play rubbish most matches, you get relegated. In the new world, why would Real Madrid v Liverpool matter? Even if we lose that and other matches, we don’t get relegated, so where is the passion?

Sorry for repeating this **** as you say but I think you are in a very very small minority favouring the ESL format. May be our current predicament and likely being out CL next season makes it currently more attractive but in the long run more people lose than win.

 

The number of police officers injured is now up to 6.

Fractured eye socket
Bottled face.

Yet some think it's all great.

 

I didnt say I was for it, more that I wasn't arsed.

The 3 point for a win thing is how a league works, I expect you'd win a European super league by winning more matches than everyone else as well.

As I say, no teams involved would be anywhere close to relegation anyway, so why would this matter, they all compete for the league or **** all.

They would just be competing against better teams week in week out. God forbid but you'd hope the standard of football would improve.

Just like now you'd have half the league safe and sound by Christmas and playing dead rubbers.

You wouldn't have to put up with the dross some teams churn out in the prem.

I'm also fairly sure finishing 2nd rather than 20th would have a financial incentive, incentive to attract better players, as well as God forbid a bit of pride and will to win, so still a fair bit of competition and meaning.

Or we coukd just have a knee jerk reaction, scream I don't like it and spit our dummies out.

Competition in the major leagues is dead.

City and Chelsea have dominated for the last 10 years 7 out of 10 have gone to the oil clubs.

Same in Spain, Germany and Italy.

All dominated by the richest club

Talk about competition when non currently exists.

 

Can't believe you're saying good luck to West Ham. They couldn't shut up last season about null and void when they were facing possible relegation. They wanted to spoil it for everyone just because they hadn't worked hard enough to be in a good position. No thought about integrity of the league then just plain and simple self interest. They aren't the only hypocrites of course. I wonder what their response would have been 2 weeks ago about a possible null and voided season (the same amount of games as when last season stopped). Talk about greed. Everybody given the right circumstances is greedy.

 

He's had all season - what difference is a couple of weeks gonna make?

 

**** 'em.
My entire life has been a slow and steady build-up to being a grumpy arl-arse. Now I'm here I'm making the most of it.

Seriously, though. Those games won't be a grand spectacle after a while - they too will seem routine.
In the meantime all the competitive spirit will have been sacrificed.
It's a definite no from me.

 

The new CL format will be sh!t too though. Large league with what 80%? Of the same teams qualifying each season, so it will be a lot of the same games year after year

 

The worse part of it is that you play 10 games against teams, but you don’t even play everyone in the league. In what world does that even make sense? Why have 1 league? Why not have a couple of you’re gonna do that? Don’t understand how you can compete with 2 or 3 other teams to finish top of the league but never actually play those teams

 

I disagree. From top at Christmas to 7th now, dumped out of all the cups. It's been a disaster, no other word for it.

 

all it does is mean one or two bad results won't put any big side in danger.

The groups right now are seeded to make it almost impossible for what happened to Man utd (3rd).

the reality is they are usually a whipping boy, a top seed who wins group and 2nd and 3rd just playing off for the other spot. Its generally dull.

However with 10 in each group now its a procession with a lot more meaningless games between sides trying to pick up points be always getting tonked when a big boy turns in.

It makes the league cup man city and chesleas to swap as nobody else in european football can afford to play it seriously (not that they do anyway)

Nobody wanted the ESL yet they have exactly that, just run by UEFA. the only difference is qualification for the 15 founders is not quite as assured, just 80% there.

 

I know, but there was some glimmer of hope for top 4 and that's gone. The other day on Twitter someone posted old photos of us with the UEFA, Milk and FA Cups. They were good enough for us back then, but no one wants them now. No one wants the Europa League and I think that's a shame. It's the level we're at right now and we have to suck it up. I don't care what anyone says, we've crumbled and imploded.

 

Watch out Wishi ,think I can hear the sirens of the negative police approaching.

 

Lets all just sigh and say it was a good run and its time to start again.

the up and downs of building up to two great seasons were a great ride. Not many get such a great outcome.

Its time to change the team and go again. Teams come and teams go. the difference between 1977 and 1981 and 1984 is fairly massive. 1986 to 1988.

things change, we are now due a change