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Postecoglou & Lange (& Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Next gaffer, who's your preference?

  1. Arne Slot

  2. Ruben Amorim

  3. Luis Enrique

  4. Ange Postocoglou

  5. Brendan Rodgers

  6. Graham Potter

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  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    FTFY
     
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  2. SpursDisciple

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    Can someone let me know if I should be excited or furious about this?
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    Hedge your bets and be both excited and furious. <ok>
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    Go "short" on excited, and "long" on never wanted him in the first place.
     
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  5. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Typical ****ing Levy.....won't appoint a proper DoF as a DoF....when we finally get a decent one into the club, he only bloody wants to be a manager again.

    <laugh>
     
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  6. Roo

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    I can’t believe Roma have gone for Mourinho. <laugh>

    why would anyone be appointing him on a 3 year deal after what us and United have witnessed in the last few years? <doh>
     
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  7. Citizen Kane.

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    It is telling that the level of expectations at the clubs hiring him dwindles with each appointment. United to us to Roma is a downward path whichever way you slice it. Give it another 5 years he'll be managing Wingate & Finchley.
     
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  8. Alfie Conn

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    Would he be good as a mentor to Mason ?
     
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    Potentially. He's been coaching since 1983 and is credited with being a big influence on the current crop of German and Austrian managers.
     
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  10. The Huddlefro

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    Makes you wonder if Levy is thinking about a curveball and going for Rangnick as a DoF with Mason leading the day-to-day coaching. Could be an interesting dynamic. Big risk though with Mason staying in place, though somewhat mitigated by having an experienced head alongside him to help with more strategic decisions and tactics.
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

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    The best suggestion is to down three cans of Red Bull, which will make you both
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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    Or alternatively, making Rangnick DoF and letting him bring in someone he trusts as manager, while moving Mason to the U23s.
     
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  13. Billy The Spur

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    It`s good to know we are not the only ones with a clueless chairman.
     
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  14. The Huddlefro

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    Indeed, or remaining part of the senior coaching staff in some capacity. It would be really interesting to see someone with actual strategic oversight for the club coming in for the next 5-10 years and look to develop the coaches as well as the players.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    So about how Lorenzo Pellegrini has little over a year to run on his contract...
     
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  16. Citizen Kane.

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    I think this is what we've lacked more than almost anything. We kind of stumbled our way accidentally into disproportionately successful 'blips' with BMJ and Harry. Together with the fact that Levy has got most of his off-pitch decisions right meant that no matter how hard he tried to screw up our long term growth with imbecile managers and poor recruitment, we never strayed too far from the long term objective of sustained growth.

    In Poch, we stumbled upon someone who was able to perceive 4 or even 5 years down the line. He was the first manager of the ENIC era who launched and nurtured a 'project'. Maureen is as anti-project as anyone. The reality is if a club lacks the money to simply launch short term visions for endless cycles of short term booms and busts such as Chelsea or City, the only viable path forward is what we did under Poch.

    Having someone in the backroom who can take that weight of responsibility off the coach's shoulders and let him focus entirely on...oh I dunno...maybe...coaching...could be a masterstroke.

    Ultimately Poch couldn't do both. He took us so far but once cracks started to appear and player injuries/sales/lack of investment threw curveballs at him, he fell apart as both a coach (relying too heavily on certain players, not utilising his squad, not developing young players, experimenting with weird tactics) and also as a project manager (horrific recruitment of players who broke transfer records but have contributed squat).
     
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    I don't see how we stumbled on Pochettino. He did well at Southampton, who pissed him off by firing his mate, so we made a move for him.
     
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  18. KingHotspur

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    Agree, you have to praise Levy for Pochettino.

    BMJ you could argue yes but not Poch
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

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    The thing is that, at various times in the decade before Poch, we outlined a project but it didn't come to pass

    Arnesen was certainly building something when he was DoF as he stuck to his brief and had a good understanding with Martin Jol, but then the Chavs tapped him up and we brought in Comolli who promptly went rogue
    LAdPCeV-B was also brought in as a project manager as his early press conferences spoke about youth and in his first season was introducing Rose, Townsend and Caulker into the team, but then The Baldini Splurge happened so he was juggling two teams worth of people wanting games which pushed any youth movement to the back burner

    Has anyone else noticed that the one thing which keeps undermining our projects if the DoF going rogue?
     
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  20. PowerSpurs

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    It's almosr as if full time football professionals know more than us on here.....
    He won't have any pressure at Roma to play stylishly...could easily improve them.
     
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