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  1. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    here is is again spouting ****e again, i see you ran off with your tail between your legs and didn't answer to your attack on Boris the article English press you have a nasty fetish against the Tory party but still haven't woken up to the fact that this in not the Labour party any more but a bunch of communists who have taken it over
    7,000 majority turned against a labour stronghold seat, we are sick of hearing your lies and bull ****, the Biggest labour defeat in an election since the war brought Boris to victory, he is not perfect but is arms and shoulders above the communist Labour party, which the people have strongly rejected.

    when a blowhard continues a personal vendetta on corruption against an individual it may be wise to check facts of your own angels before opening ones boring trap
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-56297740
    https://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/18985850.former-redbridge-councillor-jailed-electoral-fraud/
    https://insidecroydon.com/2021/02/11/newman-and-hall-are-administratively-suspended-by-labour/
    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2020/06/23/city-councillor-arrested-in-fraud-probe/


    Liam Byrne Labour Birmingham Hodge hill corruption and fraud
    Jamal Azad St Clements Cowley Marsh Oxfordshire corruption
    Labour council member Mr Banger and wife Neena Kumari finance Croydon council corruption and fraud
    Azaf Azal labour councillor sacked for theft along with five others for theft of the Pakistani community center funds of Derby

    if this has wet your appetite into true corruption would you like me to post the extremely long list of labour corruption ill be happy to do that

    there is also the child cruelty
    https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/...expose-councillor-convicted-of-child-cruelty/
    police who forced entry into locked apartment said it stank of urine and effluent

    i rest my case My lud...........
     
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  2. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    Labour simply haven’t learned a thing.

    They STILL haven’t accepted that the majority wanted BREXIT particularly in Labour heartlands, but most of all they are run by extreme Left Wing socialists, who are despised by the majority.

    I do not see a future for it. They’ve lost the plot.

    Boris has tapped into U.K. & English patriotism and taking most of the country with him.

    Bart
     
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  3. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    ****ing liar check your facts hard work didn't get him in Oxford money did
    Keir Starmer
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    The Right Honourable

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    Leader of the Opposition
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    4 April 2020
    Monarch Elizabeth II
    Prime Minister Boris Johnson
    Preceded by Jeremy Corbyn
    Leader of the Labour Party
    Incumbent
    Assumed office

    4 April 2020
    Deputy Angela Rayner
    General Secretary Jennie Formby
    David Evans
    Chair Angela Rayner
    Preceded by Jeremy Corbyn
    Shadow Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union
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    6 October 2016 – 4 April 2020
    Leader Jeremy Corbyn
    Preceded by Emily Thornberry
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    Shadow Minister for Immigration
    In office

    14 September 2015 – 27 June 2016
    Leader Jeremy Corbyn
    Preceded by David Hanson
    Succeeded by Afzal Khan
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    7 May 2015
    Preceded by Frank Dobson
    Majority 27,763 (48.9%)
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    1 November 2008 – 1 November 2013
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    Sir Keir Rodney Starmer KCB QC MP (born 2 September 1962) is a British politician and former lawyer who has served as Leader of the Labour Party and Leader of the Opposition since 2020. He has been Member of Parliament (MP) for Holborn and St Pancras since 2015. Ideologically, Starmer identifies as a socialist and has been described as being on the soft left within the Labour Party.

    Starmer was born in London and raised in Surrey, where he attended the selective state Reigate Grammar School, which became an independent school while he was a student. He graduated with a Bachelor of Laws from the University of Leeds in 1985 and a postgraduate Bachelor of Civil Law from St Edmund Hall at the University of Oxford in 1986.

    After qualifying for the bar, Starmer acted exclusively as a defence lawyer, specialising in human rights issues, before being appointed as a Queen's Counsel (QC) in 2002. In 2008, he became Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) and Head of the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), holding these roles until 2013. For his role as Director of Public Prosecutions, he was appointed Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath (KCB) in the 2014 New Year Honours.

    Elected to the House of Commons in the 2015 general election, Starmer became Shadow Minister for Immigration in 2015 before being appointed to the Shadow Cabinet in October 2016 as Shadow Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union after Britain voted to leave the European Union. Starmer was a vocal advocate for a second referendum on Brexit, saying he would have voted to remain. After Labour's defeat in the 2019 general election, Starmer was elected to succeed Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader in April 2020.

    Succeeded by Afzal Khan who is now facing embezzlement and expenses fraud
     
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  4. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    <applause><applause><applause> spot on Bart well said
     
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    I have to say, this idea that leaders of the Labour Party are from the working classes is a myth. With the exception of Neil Kinnock, whose father was a miner, most come from middle/upper middle class backgrounds with parents who were, amongst other things, solicitors, scientists, teachers. Even Starmer, whose father was a toolmaker and mother was a nurse, could be consider lower middle class. Then again, I'm firmly of the opinion that the class system is anachronism that people only cling on to because it suits their arguments. We've never been more socially mobile.
     
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    Exactly, the damage will take at least two election cycles to repair if they pack the **** in from this day forwards - if not I am not sure it can be. They are still persisting with the bollocks, to some extent even now and those that voted to leave in 2016 blame them for the ****show of brexit and it taking almost 5 years to leave.

    Corbyn's insistence that he would pop over to Brussels and tell them how it was going to be was unbelievable given the nature of the talks and actually needing the agreement of 27 nation states in any deal but the accusation from Labour and others that anyone with the audacity to vote for a change in the status quo was a bigoted and racist idiot is the reason the country is as divided as it currently is.

    The remain campaign fought by predominantly using this argument up to the referendum and have been trotting out the same garbage since. It may have gone better had they tried to actually change the minds of those planning to vote leave rather than trying to take the intellectual and moral high ground throwing slurs around constantly.

    The Lib Dems did exactly the same when they saw a way onto the top table by cosying up with the Tories before ****ting on those that voted them in and pissing off a generation of people who to this day feel betrayed so much so they remain shot as a serious third choice even now. All this was because they couldn't get on with Brown and here we are over a decade later with a Tory party who look to be dug in for the next decade.

    The political landscape in this country looks like a scene from Mad Max and I cannot see it getting any better any time soon.
     
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    There us though. Johnson is winning seats and Starmer is losing them. Actually you're right......no comparison <laugh>
     
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  8. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    and another clever man talking sense, sends a commie packing, how long does it take for the penny to drop, look at what the EU is still trying to do to us, look at Jersey , look at the fishing, look at the covid how we pumped 26 mill into the Netherlands to make astra they wouldn't even help with the 8 mill employing EU citizens then they want to ban the exports to Britain from the plant when they haven't paid F all. we give astra at cost price to the world 1.58 i believe, EU keeps rubishing it but Phyzer is over 19.00 and they cant afford it, In Germany it says 15 % of the population have been innoculated thats a lie only the parliament their wives children relatives and footballers have been done Joe Public not a sniff
     
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    Has anybody in the Labour Party asked Kier to resign yet because if I was a labour supporter I know which would worry me the most between Boris getting his flat done up or losing a seat you’ve held for 50 years even Michael Foot didn’t manage that.
     
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    been an exile for 20 years now and the last time i voted was 1997, Couldn't stand Blair but anything was better than the tories at that time. Last Labour leader i actually had any time for was John Smith, think he would have been a good PM.
     
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    The future could of been a hell of a lot different that’s for sure mate.<ok>
     
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    Jesus you are grasping mate and I mean grasping.
     
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    not entirely true mate. but agree with the sentiment and the feeling
     
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    I abhor political divisions. I hate the tradition that I'm working class therefore I vote Labour. Its pathetic at best and gross stupidity at worst. I also hate the point scoring. If all political parties and politicians were anonymous (Party A, B, C), and all manifestos were binding, and all leaders were only allowed to say what they could deliver....who would you vote for....coz despite being brought up in Sunderland and my family being blind Labour I actually can't see past the Tories currently. They, at this present point in time, have the clearest policies, have a focus, the strongest leader. Im afraid Kier needs to grow a pair of nads
     
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    Corbynista here, could never vote for quisling Stammer. Get him out, and Lisa Nandy in pronto.
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    hey Clocky bet your tin helmet has been exchanged for a 2 inch thick cast iron one;)<whistle>
     
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    Used to drink in the same bar as Cast Iron Jack , back in the day, you wont remember him kidda. <laugh>
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    my helmet cover by choice was always a rubber one:rolleyes:
     
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    This! My mother’s words to me when I said I was voting Conservative in 2019: “your grandfather would turn in his grave.” <doh>

    I said to her the Labour Party could ask you to vote for a chimpanzee in a red rosette and you would. It’s pathetic.
     
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    Nailed it

    Capture.GIF
     
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