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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    ... always someone else's fault ffs.

    A 16 year old black Croydon lad was targeted today, at his home, by people who came to stab him to death. The assailants haven't been identified ...

    ... yet a black spokesman is on the news ranting about how black people are much more likely to be stabbed to death and it's about time something was done.

    Just f**k off mate.
     
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  2. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    Selective hearing. Selective seeing . Selective use of statistics facts data .
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Not being belligerent or nostalgic but there's a fact here that can't be ignored. I was brought up in a Durham pit village that was surrounded by other pit villages. Every year we'd go to Durham Big Meeting and celebrate our similarities. At other times we'd have 'battles' against other villages which were pathetic but a part of growing up. If anything serious happened, or things got daft, the older blokes wouldn't take sides. They'd give out a few clouts, to any of us, and calm things down.

    Why can't these black 'elders' have a word with these knackers instead of handing them endless excuses ...

    ... I'm sick of hearing how they only kill each other because they're disadvantaged by white people.
     
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  4. young2077

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    Ignoring the skin colour of victims and perpetrators for a moment what would he like to be done? Young people carrying knives as a way to settle disputes is abtorrent but vast majority people who are in that life aren't going to change. No amount if education or campaigns on the results of carrying a knife is going to stop them.

    Police can only do so much. There has to be reasonable ground to stop and search, when people are attacked in communities that treat the police with contempt and are met with a wall of silence what do you want from them?

    Then there is getting into skin colour black people are more likely to be stabbed? Can we talk about the skin colour of the people stabbing them while we are at it? Because if we racially profiled the victims is he happy with us doing the same about the perpetrators? Doubt it! Would he like police to have powers to stop young black men to search for knives on nothing other than age and race? As I bet a lot of the time the victim also carries a knife.
     
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  5. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    I know the way of life you describe well - I ‘m I think a couple of years behind you, and from a couple of miles down the road
     
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  6. Fentonpell

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    Funny enough I was speaking to my sister-in-law today (she lives in Croydon) and some of the things she was telling me would make your hair curl!
     
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    Lock anybody who is caught carrying a knife without a legitimate excuse for 10 years, no ****ing about. It would soon peter out. The powers that be won't do that though as it would cost too much to keep them in prison. These "hard men" couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag without their weapons. Pathetic example of the "progress" of our selfish new society where the life of another human being means so little.
     
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  8. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    A bullet costs about £2. Caught in the street with a knife without a phenomenally good excuse and bang your gone. F*ck the do gooders and the liberals lets take control of the situation.
     
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    They kill each other because they are thick as mince
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Mrs Smug is the most generous and most tolerant person you could ever meet. After the last few months of BLM, kneeling and black people being shoehorned into every TV programme and advert she suddenly declared she thinks she's becoming a bit racist.

    She may be the only one but, if she's typical of a group of people, how would the 'campaigners' react to how people like Mrs Smug are being affected?

    Personally I don't think they'd care, their agenda is all that counts for them and they won't be diverted by anything.
     
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  11. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    I personally think BLM has done more damage to their movement than the Ku Klux Klan could ever do. I wont deny the fact that I treat all people as I find them but I believe a lot more people are becoming a tad racist.
     
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  12. Draig

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    Yet targeting 'people of colour' for stop and search on the premise that they are more likely to be involved in knife crime is institutional racism!

    something like 5 years in prison for anyone caught with a knife in public and 7 years for a gun (both with no parole) and a life sentence for being involved in any killing where one of these weapons is used (including aiding & abetting or attempting to pervert the course of justice by hiding or failing to give evidence) is the only way we will ever defeat this type of crime.
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

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    Or black icons having the courage to say,

    "Stop stabbing each other to death ffs, it gives us a bad name."
     
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  14. Draig

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    Do you think anyone would listen to them?
     
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    To be honest I had some degree of sympathy when the protests erupted in London last year following the death of George Floyd. That all evaporated the moment they started clambering all over the cenotaph and attempted to burn the flags on there, the ****ing scum. Good job I’m not a copper in the Met as I don’t think I’d have been able to stop myself from beating the **** out of them. No doubt I’d lose my job and be jailed for it too.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    We're supposed to believe black people listen to them when they're spouting the BLM message ...

    ... besides, it would show a little courage whether anyone listens or not.
     
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  17. Oldsandy

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    But you are all civilised now… I remember in the early 60s, when yobs could be given a good birching, and shops lit-up their windows at night. On a fine night people would wander through main streets looking in the windows, “window shopping”. Neon signs added colour, and when it was raining the colours would reflect on the damp ground. Cinemas and pubs turned out at about the same time but there was very rarely any trouble. I remember seeing, at chucking out time, a “merry” chap staggering out of the Golden Lion carrying a cardboard box full of bottles. The bottom dropped out of the box and bottles rolled all over the place. Passers by helped gather them up for him and somebody produced a piece of string to fortify the bottom of his box. Would that happen theses days, or would half the bottles disappear? But we were uncivilised in those days, according to anti corporal punishment groups. Their “theory” was that if you treated wrong doers with respect and kindness they would mend their ways, and our use of corporal punishment meant that our society was uncivilised. The people whose job it was to try to control the baduns argued against this. One senior Scottish police officer stated that after one dose of the birch they never came back for a second dose. Scotland had abolished corporal punishment earlier, and this police officer quoted Scottish cities as an example. Since abolishing CP people no longer enjoyed late night strolls, and shop windows were shuttered and covered in graffiti. It will happen in England he stated. But, the unelected pressure groups got their way and our “uncivilised” society became the “civilised” society of today.
    Apologies for the long rant.
     
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  18. Draig

    Draig Well-Known Member

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    Do people of colour listen to BLM? They protest, but is it just aimed at us caucasians.

    One thing the BLM protests aren't bothered about is the amount of coloured v coloured crime - which can't even be targeted because that is institutional racism.
     
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  19. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    Careful mate, just the other day the students of Cambridge voted out the use of the word ''caucasian''
     
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  20. cumbrianmackem

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    I've thought long and hard before writing this but here goes.
    I've no problem whatsoever in coloured/black youth stabbing each other to death where I get upset is when these people pick on innocent bystanders who dare wander into their domain.
    I'll leave it there as I don't want to get into a real rant about this issue.
     
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