Match Day Thread Leeds v Liverpool

Deffo yellow. Cynical and designed to take him down with no effort to get the ball. He goes in with his eyes closed.

 

Imo we can ignore the ball on it and I would call that red under the rules.

The ball was flicked away. He got the player but unlike elliott imo the player saw him coming.

Both feet full force through a player and where was var?

 

It seems the refs have gone right the other way when it comes to challenges.

Theyve been advised to let the game flow a bit more, no need to blow up for every slightest contact.

As usual though the refs have gone overboard and have seen it as an excuse to take the game back to the 70s, when men where men and just could assault another player and be applauded for it.

Just every now and again, it would be nice for them to get a happy medium rather than having yo **** up every rule change.

 

I'm not. It was a foul, maybe a booking.

 

As Molby proved.

 

^^^^^^^^ This. Mentioned this before, and by and large, they're playing to the home crowd. Completely perplexed as to why the ref didn't see that as a foul first time around, as with that sending-off by Oliver at West Ham a few weeks ago. Refs are letting the pitch become Dodge City, hoping Sheriff VAR will come in after the event and clear up the saloon.

 

Its like anything. I do fee a bit for the refs as every year they’re asked to make judgement calls with a new set of criteria.

we saw it with handballs last year. Suddenly the ball just has to touch someone’s hand and it’s a penalty until half way through season where everyone goes thats not right and rules change again.

Few years before that it was pushing/holding at corners where england got a few pens in the WC and then start of prem season had numerous pens given before everyone realised was a bit OTT and the rule sort of dropped off.

The refs have obviously been told to let the game flow and are probably going on side of caution in not blowing now for fear of being told they aren’t following the new rules.

 

It looks that way except the absolutely baffling thing to me is why referees let the game go on after a really serious injury yet blow for a fake one; play on for Elliott injury, stop play for numerous dramatic roll arounds clutching various parts of body by all and sundry. You have to wonder what actually makes them blow for a 'foul' because the criteria certainly doesn't seem to be a player falling to the ground.

 

Yes, they are still getting the diving wrong, but now they are getting bad tackles wrong as well.

 

It's a decent change, meant for the best, every slight contact is not a foul. But some if the challenges that are going in are ridiculous.

Like I say, it would be nice if they could get it some where near right first time, rather than taking six months to realise they are ****ing it up.

 

I do feel like they are hoping var refs the game for them, when it should be the opposite. You'd think as a professional you'd want to go through the whole 90 minutes and not have var called into play at all, but you get the feeling they are using it as a safety net.

 

that ****er deserves at least one of them per game .

 

He's got previous so it's a bit like the boy who cried wolf. Unless his foot was facing the other way (and I hope it never is) I wouldn't believe his antics ever.

 

I'm sure you don't mean it that way, but this reads as though you're suggesting our players are constantly innocent victims. We too have players capable of hard challenges - every team has - and I've seen our players execute that very move that hurt Elliott. The more talented teams have less reason to resort to such tactics, hence why the Burnleys of this world have the rep that they do - but there are hard men scattered throughout the game.
The fact is that any tackle from behind is deemed dangerous because the player in possession can't see it coming, but the type that caught Elliott is really common and rarely picked up on unless it results in an injury.
Refs need to be instructed to implement the rule more conscientiously, and the teams should be given official notice of this.
Rather than be partisan over it, I think we need to recognise that this is one of those areas where refs have let the already existing rule slide, and that needs to be addressed.

 

I thought Brownhill should have got a card in the first couple of minutes as well.

 

Wimburnleydon, innit? They're making hay with this letting the game flow malarkey as much as they can, preferring to amass fouls rather than points, it would appear. Praying they find themselves 15 points adrift a Christmas, and unable to claw it back.

 

yeah but i'll give them a free pass on Richarlison as , unlike Sundays incident , i firmly believe the assault on Thiago was both intentional and malicious .

 

Indeed. I've seen Virgil do this tackle a zillion times (not in the box though). As said though, the difference being that his trailing leg hasn't been off the ground and uncontrolled as far as I can remember. And it was that uncontrolled leg off the ground that did the damage, and made it a clear foul, imo, but nothing else. I am amused though that Bailey did that from the front on Nat last season, his trailing/non-kicking leg causing a foul in the box and a pen, according to the ref. Somehow, VAR overruled that. But that's VAR and Uniturd though.

 

Oh yes, and Don Carlo's comment? 'He was really unlucky there, as the referee should have seen he was tired'.

 

The only point I was trying to make in this instance was that for a set of fans who have genuine gripes regarding unpunished forceful challenges on our players, we still have an array of views on the latest forceful challenge despite the 'victims' chants and accusations thrown at us. I can't see a set of fans like Everton's, for example, having such a range of views. They would all be saying red card no question. Not all fans can get past their partisanship, we can, is what I was saying.