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Discussion in 'Charlton' started by ForestHillBilly, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. lardiman

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    Poor Shamima.
    Singing a different tune now. A born again modern western woman who wants to help prevent other girls being groomed.

    Well that's OK with me.
    She can do a weekly broadcast from her Syrian refugee camp tent, appealing to other teenagers not to do what she did - or they'll end up where she is.
    Should put a few off.

    But if she is allowed back into the UK, what message does that send?
    Go off for an adventure with terrorists and murderers, and when you've had enough you can come home.
    Tax payers (the ones you wanted to kill) will even fund a new identity for you.

    Dream on Ms Begum.
     
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  2. The Penguin

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    Nadine Dorries as Culture Secretary.<laugh> Boris at least has a sense of humour.
     
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    A bit sad that environmental protest near Dartford yesterday. The whole global warming thing continues with politiciand only paying lip service while the public generally seem happy enough with small measures to combat this provided they are free and don't affect anyone in any way. So the protest should have been a good thing. Instead, they just annoyed thousands of people for no real good whatsoever, in fact if anything their protest will help idiots like Johnson to label the protesters as tree hugging woke idiots, be popular for doing so, and set the cause back hugely. If they want to try to raise the agenda of global warming, they could look for a way to do it that doesn't piss off so many people and do such damage to their image.
     
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    Unfortunately they don't really care whether their protests piss people off or not. It's just a day out, attention seeking and gives them something to do.

    Many of the ideas they say they want to happen are illogical and in any case completely unworkable.

    I'd have respect for them if they themselves gave up all the trappings of the modern world which they apparently so despise. But there they are, dressed up in their modern clothing and trainers, with their backpacks and high-vis jackets, all mass produced in Chinese sweat shops and transported half way across their precious globe. And after their protests they'll jump back in their cars (petrol, diesel, electric - it makes no difference they are all bad for the planet) and go back home to their nice houses and plan how they can again bring tens of thousands of peoples lives to disruption without any prospect of achieving something useful.

    I despise hypocrites and these people are exactly that. Either give up all your benefits from this terrible system that you all hate so much or stop preaching to others.

    You can't have it both ways.

    And as for the Old Bill and the way they dealt with it. Jeez, don't get me started.
     
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    We all love the short-term benefits of burning fossil fuels too much to give them up. Our lives are built around them, have been ever since they were discovered. XR tactics are a pain in the butt for those affected, climate change much worse for future generartions.
     
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    We never learn.

    The pandemic should have been the biggest wake-up call in human history.
    If it was just twice as lethal as it actually is (2% instead of 1%) most of our civilisations would have collapsed by now.

    But what have we learned?
    Nothing.

    In the West we just want things back to normal.
    The right to jet off anywhere around the world for a few quid.
    Got long Covid? On an NHS waiting list? Lost your job?
    Go away and be quiet. Nobody wants to think about that stuff.

    There's a million job vacancies. What's there to be down about?
    And Ronaldo's back at United. - Are you not entertained?
     
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    Just gotta do the best you can. Try to cut down on waste, recycle where you can, try not to use one use plastics etc.

    But a complete change of society as XR want ? No, it's not going to happen and even if it did, that would bring just as many problems as the current system and maybe even worse ones. A breakdown in civilised behaviour might even ensue as people fight to maintain their previous way of life.

    XR and Insulate Britain are just snake oil salesmen peddling rubbish but disrupting other peoples way of life and other peoples right to choose.

    It's simple......let them protest as much as they like within the law, but as soon as they step over that line they are simply criminals and should be dealt with as anyone else would be who causes such massive problems for other people.

    Otherwise, why do we lock up scag-heads who break into houses to finance their habit ? Why do we lock up drink drivers who kill and injure on our roads ? Why do we lock up fraudsters who get money from others by using their brains ?

    The law is the law. Old Bill should be enforcing it on everyone, regardless of their reasons for breaking it.
     
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    This will happen in time anyway. Parts of the world are becoming uninhabitable already because of heat and humidity, other countries will simply disappear underwater, and so there will be mass migrations to more habitable countries. I see no evidence that we are changing course, population is still rising worldwide, and it's a bloody tragedy for our children and grandchildren to inherit. XR do more harm than good to their cause- the road to hell is paved with good intentions as they say, and whatever anyone thinks, we're all in the same boat.
     
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    Population growth is the biggest single threat that we face. It affects everything else. It is unsustainable at it's current rate.

    Biology and Physics will eventually sort this out for us, as I don't see the human race being willing to tackle the issue on it's own.

    If we think Covid 19 is bad, there is definitely worse to come.
     
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  11. lardiman

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    Pints and pounds, ounces and stones :1980_boogie_down: Hooray!

    :emoticon-0159-music"We've got our country back, we've got our country back...":emoticon-0159-music

    Now let's have the old money back.
     
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    A very clever distraction from the problems which are bearing down on his government. Another one is their plan to have more British emphasis on telly programs. Someone more cynical than me would connect it to the government falling behind in the opinion polls.
     
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    Apparently France is livid with us, Australia and the USA because we've agreed to give Australia the know how to build a fleet of nuclear subs, whereas the French were going to sell a deal to Australia to the tune of £27 Billion.

    Oh dear, what a shame, the French are upset with us.
     
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    You just know that idea, pre-decimalisation currency, has been discussed In The Thick of It style. A show that was a caricature with elements of truth. I’d imagine it now looks pretty tame compared to real life farcical Westminster.
     
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    The French have really thrown all their toys out of the pram over this US / UK / OZ defence pact <laugh>

    They have cancelled their planned participation in major celebrations,
    planned in the USA to mark 240 years since they helped the Colonies kick out the British <doh>
    A major diplomatic tantrum.

    Next they'll be saying they want the Statue of Liberty back <steam>
    Typical Gallic bad temper. What a grumpy bunch of bad losers they are.
    Tough titty, Nobody wants their diesel submarines anymore.
     
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    I just heard on the BBC news that France has recalled its Ambassadors from the US and Australia!

    What are they going to do - break off diplomatic relations with them? Over a submarine contract??
    Unbelievable national fit of pique.

    Terrorists are plotting atrocities all over the world. Dictatorships are flexing their muscles.
    France would do well to remember who rescued it from tyranny not so very long ago.
     
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    Climate Change # 1

    I hear the phrase "zero carbon" being slung around casually these days to describe various worthy ventures.
    This misleading term is kidding folks into believing the activity involved is wholly good for the environment, therefore putting them to sleep so they don't ask any more questions about it, or think for themselves.

    "Zero carbon" does NOT mean there is no carbon (or other) pollution involved.
    It simply means the carbon output has been supposedly balanced elsewhere. "Net zero carbon" would be more accurate, but still partially misleading in my view, as the word 'zero' is still involved, and not really meaning what 'zero' usually means in general conversation.

    'Carbon neutral' or 'Carbon balanced' would be better terms to use in my opinion.

    "Zero carbon" is a feel-good phrase in my view, adopted to quiet the consciences of the preachy types who are telling the rest of us how to live our lives in order to save the Planet.
    Climate change is REAL. It is worthy of more serious consideration than moral cop-out phrases like "zero carbon".

    The worst thing that can happen to any worthwhile cause is the adoption of it, in the manner of a stray puppy, by the well meaning middle classes.


    PS:

    Climate change is a huge subject - and it will only grow as time passes.
    If folks would like a thread dedicated to it (separate from the current affairs thread) just say so and we'll have one.
     
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    It's a yes from me <ok>.
     
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    In all the talk about carbon neutrality I rarely see it mentioned that CO2 feeds trees and plants which absorb the carbon they need for growth and release oxygen. If we stop producing CO2 what effect will this have on agriculture and forests?
     
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    We (and all animals) breathe out a fair amount of CO2 if I remember my school biology correctly.
    All plant life breathes as well as photo-synthesising, so they produce CO2 as well as oxygen.

    On the question of beer, there was beer making for about 5,000 years before there was bottled CO2.
    And as for the chilled meat sector... I expect we can get by without that for a while.

    This post-pandemic world is going to be different, that's clear enough.
    Perhaps it's better to get back to essentials and let a lot of the trivial luxuries we enjoyed pass into history.
    Supermarkets don't need to stock 35 different varieties of apples, and other veg I've never even heard of.
    And life is possible without avocados.
     
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