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Takeover (Covid-19/20)

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by RobEllious, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Hamish McMagdad

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    Thing is as far as CAT is concerned they will only look at UK corporate law, and the whole point of setting up a bloody limited company is to create legal separation between the owner and the business. PL don't have a (excuse the pun) cat in hells chance on that basis alone.
     
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  2. Roland Deschain

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    I mean, what's frustrating is everybody knows the PL went subjective on it, against their own test, and that Hoffman took a personally-beneficial stance to block it in favour of his ties with Qatar. It's blatant corruption and the fans can't do anything about it. For once, we might be grateful for someone like Ashley, with the balls to take them on.

    I think the takeover, and the continued persistence of Leicester, the blossoming threats from Villa, Leeds and Everton, made the PL go into full panic and accelerate the "ESL" notion, whilst simultaneously trying to keep Newcastle away from the top table as well. Where it all ends, I don't know.

    It's an unholy mess though. UEFA aren't fit for purpose either, pandering constantly to demands of bigger clubs but for what? So they can get into more and more debt? In 10 years, at least 3 historic clubs won't be around. Spurs in danger in the UK, but both Milan clubs, Real and Barca are going to eventually get to a point where they simply cannot buy or pay players. If TV monies don't rise again - and they won't, they will go down - then where do they turn? The governance of the sport has been ****ing abysmal for the past 30 years. Corruption at the heart of everything, allowing agents to do anything, uncapped salaries, unrestricted loan systems, complete BS efforts like fair play which only hurts smaller clubs, it's honestly incredible when you look at the failings.

    What have the FA, UEFA, PL, ever done? What have they 'protected' aside from the interests of around 15 clubs? I coach kids in a league and we have to play on something akin to a farmers ****ing field in shabby goals. Grassroots is a ****ing debacle and a disaster, the FA relies 100% on the professional clubs and does absolutely ****ing nothing for kids. There are people in football richer than any of us could dream of, doing nothing, changing nothing, helping nothing. It's a ticking time bomb.
     
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  3. Sheikh_of_Araby

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    The fact they have changed to Corporate Sole is even more obvious.

    The PL are trying to argue that NUFC will be run by shadow directors, namely MBS.

    As if MBS, the de facto head of state, has the time and inclination to run our club.
     
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  4. Hamish McMagdad

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    The whole thing is just a ****ing mess, the PL, UEFA, FIFA - The whole bloody lot of them. The second the Americans started to sit up and take notice of proper football is when it started all going to **** and that toss pot Murdoch is front and centre of the whole bloody carry on.

    Sky Sports came along and yeah the whole thing was fresh and new - for us, the yanks had been doing NFL games that way for years. Stats, graphics, eye candy in the studio - the lot. We lapped it all up and the power left the authorities as they just suckled at the tit of SKY. SKY just demanded more and more and more.

    As for the ESL - what's the ****ing point? give it 15 years and they'll be climbing over each other and stabbing each other in the back to make a world league.

    Make no mistake, the PL did nothing to stop this. They thought they could have their cake and stuff their face, PL, CL, and ESL. Murdoch was obviously either in the dark about this - which I highly doubt, or got blown out the water for the TV rights. If he had been on board with this, the ESL would have been here now.
     
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  5. Dr Van Helsing

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    Get a win this weekend then CAT rules the case is going ahead and its time to rock out with ya cocks out.
     
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  6. Roland Deschain

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    I guarantee someone, somewhere has said something like "so what if <<insert your club here>> disappears? They'll still want football, in time they'll follow one of the ESL clubs". Most likely in an American accent.

    Maybe we on this board are simply a dying breed. Maybe tribal loyalty is a dead notion and it'll effectively disappear. Maybe the ESL or whatever should actually happen, but only if they all piss off and leave their names behind too, so they'd become Manchester Devils, Manchester Blues, Mersey Reds, etc. If there's no promotion/relegation, it can't be affiliated to 'normal' football, so they have to re-establish with all their money new branding. And they can't use League clubs for the loan system. They can 'buy' our players, but can't but whoever the **** they want and farm them out. They can still hoover into their training facility and the like, but if the kids get pissed off - which they will, repeatedly - they can only sell or release.

    If they drew up rules like that, I'd be well up for an ESL.
     
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  7. Hamish McMagdad

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    Someone, Somewhere should bang their heads together and say "enough is enough, we've ripped this as much as we can, we have a huge advantage over the other clubs, lets make the most of it whilst we can. Lets tell the TV companies to go **** themselves, we'll set up our own streaming deals on a club by club, game by game basis."

    Then we'd truly see who the BIG supported clubs are, because I can guarantee once the safety net of a big TV deal falls by the wayside is when agents and players have to cut their cloth accordingly. Once that happens transfer fee's and wages will balance out more evenly I reckon. Without prime time sports the days of your Sky's etc are numbered with the emergence of online streaming companies such as Netflix, Amazon etc. Once that happens competition can once again start.

    For God's sake we have a champions league that has 4 clubs from each country, with the bigger clubs seeded in the groups to avoid being knocked out early - all because of bloody broadcast companies. That is not fair competition and its always the same teams playing each other which is why you get **** attendances at the plastic clubs, and **** viewing figures. It's why the SPL and Scottish league has been **** for years, same clubs playing each other every 6-8 weeks.

    With the way the world has moved on with the internet and social media, the clubs don't need a sky sports to promote them anymore.
     
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    Technically speaking your correct and i said this months ago.

    However there are instances where you can look through that company protection and legal situations are one of them.

    As in "proper legal" and not just the PL making up the rules to fit a purpose.
     
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  9. Hamish McMagdad

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    That could be looked at in 2 ways on our side as well. I am unaware of any actual supporting evidence that the Saudi state was complicit in the BeOut Q piracy streams. Yes they were broadcast on Arabsat which is owned jointly by the Mena region countries. Yes it was meant to have been based in Saudi. Yes the WTO said the Saudi State hadn't done enough to prosecute those responsible or do enough to close it down quicker than they did - Again in my view, this is not enough to accuse those involved in the Takeover of actual piracy.

    The USA are the ones that have this piracy watch list for countries stealing IP rights. Yet don't name themselves as Amazon are the bloody worst offenders of the lot. I get that Amazon don't stream the games etc but lets be blunt IPTV is the only reason anyone buys a bloody firestick and the vast majority of the shows on there are been uploaded and streamed from either the USA or Ireland as that's the only bloody adverts you get on it :emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm.
     
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  10. Roland Deschain

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    Piracy was convenient. I daresay they'd have murmured stuff about Kashoggi to delay it, but probably didn't really want to go that far (though they would have).

    It's a huge mess, that's all I know.
     
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  11. Hamish McMagdad

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    Here's the thing, even the Kashoggi thing, MBS and none of the PIF have been charged in a court of law for that. The PL can't just block someone on hearsay. That would stop Garry Hoffman being PL chairman because he is under investigation for money laundering via Monza or whatever its called. He's not been charged personally for anything YET!!!!!! but you then have to say in this country the man is innocent till proven guilty - Each and every one of their arguments or objections are flimsy at best.

    This all boils down to money and Qatar's influence in my view.
     
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    Rotherham.

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    Bruce is leaving.
     
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    Must have run out of kebabs up north
     
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  18. Wilbert

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    Really??
    i saw rumours he wanted/being pushed to go but i don't believe most of the **** i read
     
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  19. Sheikh_of_Araby

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    Burnsie for once has got something correct. They are trying to get rid of him.
     
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  20. Wilbert

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    is that because of results or the transfer window BS? only this morning it was circulating the ashley and the powers that be were happy to give him time, along with not wanting to make a payout while trying to sell the club
     
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