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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Pretty sure she's shagging him. Boris likes a jolly up and a leg over at the taxpayer's expense.
     
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  2. Lemons and Oranges

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    I think you'll find that Carrie has placed a tag around Boris' todger, to stop him playing away, or at least to keep track of him whilst he engages in Ugandan discussions
     
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    Could she put one round his ****ing neck? Preferably one which tightens every time he tells a porky?
     
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  4. StJabbo1

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    The dirty old dog needs chipping.
     
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  5. Lemons and Oranges

    Lemons and Oranges Well-Known Member

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    As in being put through a wood chipper?
     
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  6. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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  7. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Heard Dmitry Grozoubinski of ExplainTrade explaining why Boris bullshit about us joining the North American trade agreement USMCA was nonsense

    Many agreements have sections on the process for another country to join. This one doesn’t because it already includes all the countries that might be described as being part of ‘North America’ US Canada Mexico

    Not to mention that the differences between the acceptable terms to them and us are that fundamental that it will take a change in the political landscape of one or both nations to have any chance of an agreement

    Not to mention this is one of the big benefits promised from Brexit and yet is 0.2% of UK trade vs the 5% loss from leaving EU anyway
     
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  8. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    “The head of the NFU, Minette Batters, wrote to Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Wednesday warning that the food and farming sector is on a "knife edge" due to a shortage of workers across the entire supply chain.

    The letter, signed on behalf of a number of food and drink trade bodies, urged the government to introduce a Covid-19 recovery visa to open up new recruitment opportunities as a matter of urgency.”

    You couldn’t make it up
     
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  9. The Ides of March

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    I wake up this morning feeling a little sad, not for myself but for the UK. Why? I see gas prices rising much more rapidly than elsewhere in the EU. I see farmers are having problems harvesting their crops. I see problems in getting goods to markets because of the HGV driver shortage. I see businesses that deal with the EU inundated with reams of paperwork,. The UK fishermen have lost their market, while the situation in Northern Ireland is very serious. Not because of "Brexit" but because of Johnson's Brexit deal!!!!
     
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  10. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    Lots of people like Spaffer Johnson which I can live with but what I can't abide is that they think because they like him he is a great Prime Minister. He ****ing ain't . He is awful, the worst we have ever had.
     
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  11. The Ides of March

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    The one area where Johnson's Government are good is in wheeling out simple three word logo "Get Brexit Done," "Build Back Better," and "Taking Back Control." Is this because the core of their voters are like Trump's in that they cannot be bothered reading between the lines or actually thinking about the actual substance of tthe three-word message?

    The situation has almost been reached where the UK people should be taking to the streets and descending on Downing Street for the PM to do something about the crisis, a considerable amount due to Johnson's Brexit. If he doesn't change course soon, his MPs will have him hung, drawn and quartered as support collapses for the Tories. While it may be good news for Starmer and Labour, I fear it could lead to increased support for the extreme right.
     
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    Who are his supporters? If they are in the former "Red Wall" areas, what have they got in common with Johnson, and what has he got in common with them? Although I didn't agree with Dennis Skinner over his EU stance, surely it is he and his kind that former Labour supporters should identify with.
     
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  13. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    The Lexiters, i.e. the left wingers who campaigned for Leave, are just as much to blame for the ****hole we’re in now as those on the right. Unfortunately Corbyn’s inability to choose a side has ripped the guts out of the Labour Party and landed us with a huge Tory majority and an ineffectual opposition leader. There was a story yesterday that Starmer actually stopped backing a “soft” Brexit in order to further his own leadership ambitions.
     
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    There's the key word, "story." Although Labour didn't handle the Brexit situación at all well, the blame for the crisis and responsibility is entirely the PM's. And he needs to take ownership, but that, I very much doubt!!
     
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    So why has Starmer effectively blocked any Rejoin campaign by Labour for the foreseeable future?
     
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  16. The Ides of March

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    I do not know the answer to that but the Brexit disaster is not of Starmer's making, nor Labour save that I feel they should have abstained when Teresa May presented her Brexit Bill. That would have got through Parliament as two-thirds of the Tory parliamentary party supported it. While not good, it was better than Johnson's. We need to focus on Johnson and his disaster, not Labour's failings.
     
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    Because the Labour MPs are too idiotic and weak to see that the red wall is a lost cause for them and continue to fence sit i.e fiddle while Rome burns, while they think they can somehow reconcile their anti-EU socially conservative red wall vote with their pro-EU socially liberal London vote.

    They need to be cutting their losses campaigning for rejoining the EU, electoral reform and forming alliances with the Lib Dem’s and Greens - That is also the only possible situation in which the U.K. survives as well as far as I can see and even that feels like a bit of a long shot in the longer term.
     
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  18. The Ides of March

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    I agree with your second paragraph entirely. As for your opening statement, how does Johnson reconcile his supporters in these former Labour seats with Conservative EU supporters in the Home Countries? He must be a marvellous conjuror.
     
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  19. Shandy_top_89

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    Can’t say I have a well thought out answer but I’d say that the Red Wall was won because Johnson represented an aggressive Brexit. The Home Counties have remained largely unchanged in the meantime and was pretty much 50/50 regarding Brexit.

    For Labour meanwhile London was 60/40 remain and as mentioned the Red Wall was hard Brexit and no longer holds liberal values, I think the change there is probably going to last a generation.

    Longer term I actually think the Lib Dem’s will start to chip away at the Home Counties as the Conservatives **** business agenda starts to take a grip. Part of the reason Labour should work with the Lib Dem’s, they will break through in parts of the South that Labour won’t.
     
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    Totally agree with you that opposition parties need to work together at the next election.
     
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