The end of a money making academy?

While this means sales like Walcott, Bale, Chamberlain etc remain the same, deals like Sammy Baldock, with a £2.5m fee would be shafted.

 

£5m divided between the 72 league clubs is about £70k per club. In football terms it's not alot. How much does that actually buy? Staff, equipment and training space can't be cheap.

 

This is a shocking decision for the smaller teams in English football, but unfortuantely football is driven by money these days. Its a positive for us that we wouldn't be as effected but we could be looking at more reports of league one/two teams heading towards bust over the next few years and that would be a shame for everyone who loves football..

 

Whole idea stinks. If we are promoted we should play in the Prem, but under protest; conducting matches in a funereal atmosphere, or enacting a mock burial of 'the soul of the premier league' before every match.

Thus carving an identity as the cool radical club, to attract remote fans from abroad on pay per view!!!

 

This is major stuff...not that paltry hand out, but taking away the means of production; essentially for clubs to survive. I feel like I've been asleep at the wheel on this...I feel people would be mobilised, if this hadn't been so hush-hush. It's quite sickening ...what with the last fortnight seeing a continuous leak of greed fueled brain-farts from the minds of Premiership CEOs

 

It's exactly £69.4k but at least it helps, alot better than bein told to sell players to fund that 70k! Teams like Burton and Accrington will find it very useful as I reckon it'll be more than what they can spend on players for the season

 

Not all clubs apply for grants which is what happens. Clubs submit a claim to the FL and I think the maximum is £120k, the FL then decides.

 

I was just wondering were has it actually been announced who has a Category 1 Academy?

 

Would it be worth subsidising nearby development systems ourselves for the privelege of having better players to poach? Is that even allowed?

 

I can't see why it wouldn't be allowed, it would be just like payin a club to have them as a feeder club which is exactly what happens already. Maybe the payment could be increased a touch but we've already got this in place with Eastleigh which is obviously where Aaron Martin came from! Maybe we should look into gettin Totton and Sholing on our books aswell for the odd players that could turn into top class but that's obviously something Don Cortese would have to look into

 

We got decent money for these players because they were under contract, but under the new scheme couldn't Arsenal have snatched Chamberlain whilst he was still in the academy. Let's face it his Dad would have jumped at it.

 

Always feel saddened when youngsters get poached for peanuts, but this new rule just gives the clubs that have money, more power to bully.
A sad day for football.

 

This rule means that southampton will be able to do the poaching for peanuts so it does work in our favour. But it still stinks.

 

Even under Lowe we got paid. This is about the clubs relying on that particular pay day.
It sucks, & it is damaging.

 

Link below for more insight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2011/10/football_league_votes_in_favou.html#299200

Lat

 

Tbf, this was discussed a few days ago, but Paul Fletcher's blog is a welcome addition to it. Myself, I read it earlier today

Here's the catch up, if the OP wants to read it. Admittedly, it was on page 3: http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/95223-The-end-of-a-money-making-academy.

 

Apologies Second Stain, did not realise it had been discussed as not on every day. Cheers for re-posting original thread though, I'll have a gander at that.

Lat

 

No problem, mate.

 

Hornet in peace (wasn't sure whether to continue this thread or revive the dead one).

It goes without saying that the financial part of the EPPP is a disgrace (although in fairness the other aspect of EPPP is effectively to tell other clubs that they should be doing what we're doing). Self interest aside, if youngsters know that once they get to 17 the big clubs will only be interested once they're the finished article, the chances are that a higher proportion of them will take a punt on the Arsenals, Chelseas etc before that age. Far fewer of them will go all the way through the system at lower league clubs, the end result being that

I think clubs such as Watford and Southampton should seriously consider defying the rule, if there is any question whatsoever over whether it fully complies with competition law. Assuming there is, we should inform the other 90 clubs that we do not acknowledge the fee element of the EPPP, that we reserve the right to on our right to negotiate all transfer fees, and that if a club forces us to release a player for the EPPP compensation, we reserve the right to take retrospective legal action to recoup what we should have got for the player. And when a club truly takes the biscuit, follow through on that threat.

Assuming that there is a legal debate to be had, there are three broad court outcomes. One of them would be to deem the new rule legal, another would be to deem it in breach of competition law (the most likely outcome if we are confident enough to take this stance in the first place), and the third would be to determine that clubs should not be eligible to any financial compensation as a result of decisions taken by schoolchildren. The third is possible: you can poach under-18s from Spain for nothing.

Okay, so the above is probably a pipe dream, and I know that in terms of size of fanbase, infrastructure etc we're at opposite ends of this league and therefore have slightly different interests. Still, I wish clubs such as ours would stand up to Premier LeAGUE a bit more often than we do. If there is even the sniff of a chance to do so here, I don't see that we have any choice but to take it.

 

Great post northwatford. Unfortunately I don't think anyone will take on the big guys legally, and if they did we might see a quicker breakaway of the Prem league brought in.