Coronavirus: Please use this thread for all COVID19 talk!

I think it was the Sunday Telegraph that had an article about the number of non--double-vaccinated people currently in hospital with Covid over last weekend and mentioned a percentage of 40%. This really surprised me as I would have expected this percentage of people who had been double vaccinated to be nowhere around 60% which was what had been implied. We were talking about this at work yesterday as you would have expected that the number of double vaccinated people to have been on a small scale and not the majority. It struck me as the least credible statistic I had heard for a long while and I was wondering whether there was any better data which explained who was becoming affected. (Vaccinated, non-vaccinated, age groups, geographical locations, ethnicity, health, etc. etc.)

The fact that I know of quite a number of people who have had Covid despite receiving vaccination bears out Chilco's comments but the distribution of infections continues to surprise. Winchester remains in the Top 20 Local Authority areas of concern in the UK:-

https://www.hampshirechronicle.co.u...e-hospital-admission-covid-climbs-winchester/

 

The high number of hospitalized vaccinated people should be interpreted carefully...the vaccinated group are a large proportion of the population and contain most elderly and vulnerable people...therefore ‘only’ 4O% hospitalized patients being unvaccinated is larger than it appears.

 

Ps Just been called in for my booster...hurrah

 

That number is not correct. Here are the numbers as of a week ago:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/22/4-charts-show-how-covid-vaccines-are-working-in-the-uk-.html

Compare the number of unvaccinated patients requiring emergency care to the number of vaccinated, per 100,000. It's much, much larger.

The "60% are vaccinated" figure appears to be from a four month old comment that was, per the person who made it, a misstatement which they corrected the same day:

 

Booked mine yesterday!

 

And the big thing that people are forgetting about the statistics for the 40% who are double-jabbed, is that the immunity appears to gradually wear off, so those of us who are more than 6 months after our second shot are much more vulnerable. This is why the booster rollout is vital to controlling the surge that’s been happening for the last few weeks.

 

Chilco

I was wondering just how freqiuently we are goig to have to have these jabs. I was staggered at how quickly science has come to the rescue and effecively found a vaccine within 9 month. We are now 10 months on from that and I was curious to see when someone is going to announce a vaccine which is more effective in the long term. If we are going to have to get jabbed every six months, I would not envisage the threat of cpid diminishing shortly. It will be nteresting when someone comes up with a vaccine that is semi - permanent rather like things like measles.

 

I agree entirely Ian. A long-term vaccine, ideally one that gives immunity against all coronaviruses, not just SARS-Cov-2 (which causes Covid19), is surely being developed in some research lab somewhere. As you say, without that it’s hard to see the virus going away anytime soon.

 

Remember the strength of viruses usually attenuates with time...otherwise the Spanish flu would have gone on and on in the absence of vaccines.

 

If anyone is planning a trip to Spain, the written proof of having been vaccinated in the UK, must be dated from November 1st, 2021.

 

Excellent news.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59178291

 

Good news for @Saints Fan4Life.

 

It's very good news. Still important though to focus on vaccination first, in part because it's going to be some time until the pill is widely available in enough quantity to meet demand.

 

Good news, especially if it's ever released more widely (looks like it's just for vulnerable adults right now, which I'm very much not a part of), but I'm confident this sort of thing may be more common in the future.

 

Good for the future this and other research like for an accurate and affordable breathalyser style tester. It's the here and now that needs focus with steeply rising rates in the UK and Europe including here in the Netherlands with masks and distancing regulations back from tomorrow together with increased use of Corona passes. The to late and to soon cycle continues, that and a distinct lack of discipline across the population.

 

Another step forward is the identification of a gene (known as LZTFL1) that doubles the risk of dying from Covid.
The gene stops cells lining the airways and the lungs from protecting themselves against attack.
They claim that the gene is found in 60% of people with South Asian ancestry, compared to 15% of Europeans.
Scientists think this may explain why a large number of people, originating from India have died in the UK.
It could also explain why some are more seriously ill when infected.

 

Also prevention is better than cure. Good news to have back up treatment for patients with breakthrough disease after vaccination and for those rare people who can’t have the vaccination.

 

More good news in that infection rates and new cases seem to be going down, particularly in the West of England which has been badly hit in the last month. In my wife’s place of work the patients who haven’t died all seem to be recovering.

 

Not to try and put a dampener on things but I do wonder if that was anticipated given Half Term.