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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by Forgot_My_Lines, Aug 11, 2015.

  1. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member
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    Sounds like nonsense to me. Why would we have sacked him in the summer. New players take time to bed in. Delia knows this. Would seem very out of character for Delia.
     
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    And they know this because?
     
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  4. Golden Eadie 2

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    It has just come to mind, DF and staff got a new 4 year contract in July. Strange action from the owners if they wanted DF removed. Utter rubbish in other words.
     
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  5. RiverEndRick

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    This came up on the PL thread, so I'll repeat my comment on this here:

    The source is Football Insider which, as the name implies, claims to have inside knowledge, but you need to read carefully to pick out the speculative nature of the claims. It starts with a claim of "sources", but that then becomes "a Norwich source". That isn't even the usual "source within the club" - it could be a fan or just somebody who lives in Norwich and thinks he's itk. It then goes on to "it is believed" (anybody can believe anything) and then cites "disquiet in the boardroom at the poor return on a summer signing spree that cost the club £60million" without any attempt to source that comment.

    That is followed by: "his (Webber's) contract is due to expire at the end of the season and, barring an unlikely turnaround, he is not expected to extend it." The recent discussions of Webber going on to a rolling contract next year are completely ignored (perhaps through ignorance). All of this is complete blog speak written by somebody who has little knowledge of the club but want to get clicks from Norwich fans like TalkSport did with their announcement that Lampard was going to be our new Head Coach. It's all sh*te like the rumours of Todd having it off with Gilmour's girlfriend or his supposed 'fisticuffs' with Hanley. Press the ignore button.

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/...eave-norwich-after-fall-out-with-delia-smith/
     
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  6. SuffolkCanary

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    I agree with all of the above, I believe Webbers contract is on the agenda for tonight’s AGM so it should be out to bed either way very quickly
     
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    Sounds totally ludicrous and at odds with everything we could possibly know, especially Webber’s anticipated contract extension…
     
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    Michael Bailey has tweeted from the AGM 6 minutes ago:

    "There we go... Sporting director Stuart Webber has agreed a new deal to stay with Norwich City. Covid-19 has changed things. Webber's future will now be reviewed each summer."
     
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    So... the total opposite to what the numpties were reporting. Ridiculous how they can get things so wrong and be allowed to publish nonsense.
     
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  12. RiverEndRick

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    What a great celebration that is. I like this from Dean Smith:

    “The warmth and the reception has been superb. Myself and Craig’s families have been so well looked after for the first two home games and it is a warm club, but we want it to be a winning, warm club.”

    And so say all of us!
     
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    I read the article and I can't see premiership teams from about 10 down being happy with this. Clubs will bank a lot kore of the money scared to spend it in case they go down. I do agree it causes disparity, but then do you find some way to raise the income of the Championship? PL PL2 L1 L2? and PL2 gets 1/3 of the income of the PL?
     
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    It can cause disparity but it also gives teams with our financial capabilities some ability to compete
     
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    Today's edition of The Athletic has an article about the trialling, at the Arab Cup tournament currently taking place in Quatar, of a "semi-automated" system for deciding offsides. This is a FIFA initiative, and intended to be used in the 2022 World Cup. It is designed to eliminate human judgement regarding an attacker being in an offside position at the moment the pass forward is made. That bit is fully automated using an array of cameras and positional data from various parts of each player's body. The "semi-automated" refers to factors such as whether a player in an offside position is or isn't interfering with play. The intention is that the question of whether a player is in an offside position or not will be as definitively settled by technology alone as the question of whether the ball was over the goal line is currently by technology alone.
     
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    Oh God, this sounds like more technobabble in an attempt to solve problems with what football administrators imagine is 'science'. How many cameras would there need to be in order to be sure they pick up the 'various parts of each player's body', since there are twenty-two players on the pitch and they could be in any area of the pitch, and all of this would need to be covered at all times from a range of angles, as well as allowing for when one player's body is obscured by another/others? How would the technology identify the exact moment to a split-second at which the ball leaves the foot of the player making the pass and be certain that this co-ordinates to the split-second with the moment they take a picture of the player who receives the ball? How does the technology 'decide' whether another player who does not receive the ball is interfering with play since this is a holistic decision based on the situation of the game at that moment rather than a crude measurement of drawing a line on the pitch? Or is this why the system is called 'semi-automated' - that it is impossible to rid the game of subjective decisions and a human being will have to draw on his experience to make that kind of decision? If so, isn't it just simpler for VAR to use a simpler technology and in cases where it is not immediately clear whether a player is offside or not, the decision goes in favour of the attacker?

    And what comes next? After the controversies of this week, will we have technology to decide what is an unnatural position for an arm, all 'scientifically' done by measuring the angles involved?
     
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    Derby on the brink of liquidation, apparently. Beneath the glittering surface of the Premier League, English football is in a mess.
     
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    I don't think you need to worry about the technical feasibility of this Gozo. And yes, as I said in my post, the "semi-automated" is acknowledgement of the existence of factors that go into being on-side or off-side other than who is goal side of who. What the technology is designed to do is obviate the need for the current laborious process whereby the VAR team have to manually superimpose those "offside lines" on the video recordings as currently is the case, which process accounts for a considerable proportion of the time taken by VAR during a game.
     
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    I can't help but think the easiest way to sort out this subjective call of whether a handball is an infringement or not is to clear up the wishy washy rules. Make it simple. If the ball hits a players hand or lower arm it's a foul. Currently too many variances and phrases like “MAY constitute an offence” etc.
     
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    Wasn't it changed from that last year, because you can leather the ball at someone from a yard away and from the rules claim a penelty
     
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