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I actually breed them and let them go behind the shop. Keeps me in business. An idea I put to Dragons Den but they were having none of it. Works for me.

 

Many moons ago, I was made aware of a guy that made a living removing pigeons and other pest birds from large industrial sites. He got well paid for each one, all on individual contracts.

He basically let off loud explosions, that scared the birds into flying away, obviously to find new roosting spots, which tended to be on large industrial installations, that coincidentally, the same guy had a contract to remove them, by setting of loud explosions that caused the birds to...you get the picture.

 

I've been known to let off 'loud explosions'(especially after a chicken tikka South Indian garlic chili) to get rid of the Mrs...She's still here after 43 years!!

 

I really thought you was going to say that he had pigeon every night for tea!

 

I've never eaten Pigeon, but my cousin did have it as a starter.

He and his missus were a bit surprised/disgusted that it was served cold.

Probably a French idea, you know what they're like.

 

I have and it's worth a miss.

 

Coming from Driffield and having uncle's who liked shooting,I was force fed it in childhood

Lead shot 'n' all!!!

 

How dare you try and bring this thread back to the sale of the club? Disgusting behavior

 

Carry a ****ing EpiPen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Amen

 

Fire was a massive gamechanger (see what I did there?) in many ways - survival, protection, light, comfort, a key to myriad inventions / developments that enabled humans to continue to advance way beyond other primates. Being able to make meat eatable for us may or may not have had a minor impact; there are conflicting hypothesis and studies. If it had, as suggested in the post, such a huge impact in our physical & mental development, then the population in regions of the world where little to no meat is eaten would still be cavemen or earlier homos; so no, it didn't cause a huge leap!!
One of the common myths pedaled is that about protein, including the supposed need for animal produce, and here we go again! The meat, dairy & related industries would have us believe we need far more protein than we do, and that it is healthy and animal flesh & milk forms are the best form of getting it - most continue to fall for it and many pay the price over time.
Back to the OP. Our evolution has been going on for millions of years, and over time it has evolved to a small degree as humans developed different habits to other primates (just as theirs are not all identical) and included the ongoing trend of larger brain development way before cooking on fires. We were and still are basically primates. Our 'nature' (nod to the OP) / biology did not somehow change because of the invention of fire. Our instincts, teeth, intestines, gut acid, etc etc are still basically that of a herbivore - that much is beyond question, and if you disagree have a go today at eating raw your dog / cat / bunny rabbit / guinea pig rather than the banana or apple in your fruit bowl.
We have been evolving for millions of years (likely 7 to 13 million years, or much longer if we go back in primate lineage). Our diet has changed beyond all recognition in modern times; in evolutionary terms, in a mere blink of an eye. Eating animals & animal produce as we eat them now is not what nature intended for us, it would be utterly ridiculous for anyone to argue otherwise - and as said, unfortunately many are paying the price.
Then there is also the compassion / moral and environmental arguments.
BTW, I am not some holier than though vegan (not suggesting for one minute that all vegans are). But I have taken easy, sensible, healthy, compassionate steps to eliminate 95%+ of animal consumption and I gave up cow milk years ago (I read recently that oat is the most enviro friendly alternative, so that and hempseed milk is now what I prefer). In reality, it isn't difficult at all, we have some fantastic meals and it just makes sense.
Anyway, new owners yet?

 

Like many animals, many of our actions are counter-intuitive, and scientists have found that microbes are a significant reason for this. They act to manipulate the host to perform in a way that is in the best interest of the microbe, rather than the creature they live on.

It's possible that the delicious flavour in meats is generated by microbes to encourage other creatures to eat them and transfer the microbes to another host. An alternative evolution would have meant that animals that taste crap would have a better chance of survival.

As microbes play an essential part in the synergy of the bio-sphere and ecosystem, vegans and vegetarians are effectively killing the planet...the bastards.

I may or may not have made some, or all of this up.

 

Interesting read that.

As with so many topics, the problem convincing some people is that they already have biases and it's hard to change someone's mind when they don't want to be. With the debate over vegan/vegetarian stuff, some people can't let go of the idea that it's strong and manly to eat meat and soft and weak to not eat it. I'm not a vegetarian or vegan but I think it's a topic worthy of discussion and that we should really grow beyond the childish retorts often aimed at it.

 

Oat milk yuk.
I have enough oats in my porridge without adding oatmilk.
Each to their own

 

Food Glorious Food, from the film Oliver.

 

Yes,you have them too in the South side,biting the dustbin men? One passed me in Argyle St,near trongate,in broad daylight recently,cheeky big bastard looked me straight in the eye and let out a squeal too!!

I know I'm ugly but FFS

 

I wouldn't say you're ugly, Ric Merrick.

 

The wife loves me,that's probably got more to do with her white stick than anything though.

I've got a gaffer called Merrick.I'm always saying to the young un's when they're messing around and he's watching what's going on "Watch,Elephant man's out on the floor"...Answer 'Who's elephant man papa Ric'??