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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    I think the rouges are overpaid
     
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  2. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Is there anyone who can both share this government’s ideology and be intelligent and able? Anyone of the quality we need would be calling Johnson out for the lazy, inept person everyone knows he is.
     
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  3. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Boris Johnson is lazy at times, I agree, and he's never been a details man, leaving it to his underlings while he "wows" the public - which he did with great effect at the last election, consigning Corbyn to history. Johnson is an adept political operator but he is also gaff prone, and if he had politicians around him of stature, reviewing his policies with intellectual rigour, there'd be fewer U turns and we'd all be better off for it. That said, the two most important issues of the day, vaccinations and economy, appear to be in decent shape, certainly compared with EU member states.
     
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    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Any thoughts on the idea to confiscate class a drug users passports?! Thats half the population screwed then and most of the high flying elite in london:emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  5. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    And most of the Cabinet.
     
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  6. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Probably be easier to say who can keep their passports. Another stupid idea from the most stupid government ive ever witnessed.
     
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    Ffs now Kit Malthouse our very own Policing minister not knowing his arse from his elbow! What have we come to? We must be seen as the comedy country nowadays.
     
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  8. qprbeth

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    I said all this from the start. Boris and his party only allowed novice yes men and women into his last intake of MPs and hence ministers...just to get Brexit done.

    Tories of standing, of integrity, of experience were forced out...all well and good... they got Brexit done.

    But then came a real crisis. COVID. They had no people of experience and integrity who knew how governments worked, how to get things done or who could stand up and say....Boris you are wrong with this or that decision

    How I long for Kenneth Clark or even now Teresa May.
     
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  9. ELLERS

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    Sorry Beth but many of those new Tory MPs are young and bloody good. The mistakes made has been down to some of the old experienced heads.
    Funny before his Brexit stance Ken Clarke was just another nasty Tory and May caused many of these NI problems through her weakness... Now they are okay?
     
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    Dominic Raab on the wireless defending the disgraceful conduct of the Foreign Office during the evacuation from Afghanistan, where people who had a link to the U.K. were left to their fate because of clock watchers in London not bothering to read emails and leaving junior staff alone to deal with life and death issues.

    Regardless of party political affiliation (I have none), this bloke is, objectively, thick. It’s terrifying.

    Nick Robinson (affiliation: Tory) is irritating as well. At least let the interviewee finish his/her sentence, and in Raab’s case make a bigger fool of himself.
     
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  11. Bwood_Ranger

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    It’s all relative. Now we have Ben Bradley.
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    Ask Beth what she thinks of Bens performance? Most of the governments mistakes seem to fall at the feet of the experienced MP’s. I think the new MPs have been a breath of fresh air. Even today polls are show that red wall tories are doing good jobs locally. People don't trust Labour. Accept it. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  13. Bwood_Ranger

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    I’ve never doubted the Tories’ ability to piss on people and tell them it’s raining.
     
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    Then tell me who you think can do a better job?
    Please don't say Labour. I just listened to Emily Thornberry discuss Raab and she reminded me why no sensible person would vote for that party.
    Come on then Watford tell me who would do better?
     
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    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Labour would obviously do better. Even if we lived in a one party state, your argument of “it’s **** but it’s all we have” wouldn’t be a great endorsement. They’ve had 11 years.
     
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    Andrew Neil
    A surge in the number of cycle lanes has contributed to London becoming the world’s most congested city, says Inrix, a traffic information company
     
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  17. Goldhawk-Road

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    What are your positive grounds for saying this?
     
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  18. rangercol

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    Raab is hopeless, no doubt.
    However, it's a bit of a stretch to blame the failure to get everyone out all on the pen pushers.
    It would have been hellishly difficult to get individuals (harder still entire families) from wherever they were hiding and into the airport.
    There were many, many failed attempts by very brave security people and SF.
    There were also 15k brought out.
    Nothing is black and white.
     
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    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    The Prime Minister would be an intelligent and hardworking self-made leader in his field rather than a lazy populist alcoholic chancer.
     
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    Starmer's judgement call over Brexit - supporting a People's vote - was woeful. He completely misread the mood of the country. He has the political antennae of a lemming, zero charisma, was only an average lawyer and his deputy's idea of diplomacy is to shout "scum" at the other side. In order to win an election and succeed (for a while) thereafter, he would need the status of Blair in 1997 and the quality of Blair's shadow cabinet to match. Starmer is a long way from that.
     
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