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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by RobEllious, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    Just remember chaps we don’t need a few mega deals which will now breach the premier leagues new doping rules.

    We just need many MANY small MV deals which will all be accepted because they will all be perfectly legal.
     
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  2. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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  3. Geordieginola

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    Nah that’s just then fitting it to the anti nufc narrative.

    Honestly it’s going to be ok. They can’t do a thing about MV deals and that’s all we need to be right up there.

    Any deals over MV would have been deemed excessive under the old rules anyways.

    Notice the media don’t implicate any other teams being affected just us.

    It’s anti-competitive to restrict trade. So unless it’s an over inflated deal it cannot be blocked.
     
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  4. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    Come on mate it's clearly not good. They can stop nufc investing what's required and the premier league who took 18 months to concede to the takeover can decide on the numbers.

    This is a result of levy and the other 18 clubs throwing a tantrum and getting colluding to stop nufcs business objective.
     
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  5. Geordieginola

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    I’m very positive on this one as they can’t hide behind smoke and mirrors.

    They can’t block commercial deals. It’s illegal.

    They can’t even stop us spending over £400m in the next 2 years. With modest sponsorship deals.

    And what constitutes MV anyway. MV is stipulated by current standards. Which has to be benchmarked at the higher levels.

    They can’t just say ah that’s to much because your the size of erm Burnley. So your maximum income is £x million.

    That would be illegal.
     
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    And if they try to block when it’s a “fair” deal then we go to Court again. They fold again.
     
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  7. Geordieginola

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    @the #Cans Master
     
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  8. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    It's this fair deal line that's the problem.

    Well I mean as far as competing goes.. It's nothing more than a means to protect the other clubs from nufc.

    It's designed to kill the dream
     
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  9. Hamish McMagdad

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    Its an "external firm" handling this with private data regarding other deals. No way is that in place today and they revoked the ban yesterday <whistle>
     
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  10. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    I have tried to explain, but ask yourself why Staveley hasn't agreed to it and ask yourself why it happened in the 1st place.

    They will hopefully win the legal challenge otherwise its far from ideal
     
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    I don't know why you lot haven't figured it out but I've said my bit. Hopefully they win the legal case
     
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  12. Geordieginola

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    It will be fine trust me.

    Im confident.
     
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  13. Hamish McMagdad

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    I will try and explain this slowly for you. Staveley was on the group which came up with this idea. The thing she never voted for was to prevent another super leagie. An owners charter. :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  14. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    Your confidence isn't the debate I'm merely pointing out that this isn't the great news you think it is.
     
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  15. Hamish McMagdad

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    They will use current and historic deals of a similar kind to determine a fair market value. That means we can beat everything currently out there so long as we don't go smashing the granny out of it man. That gives us bucket loads.
     
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    It's actually startling that after what's gone on you can't see what going on here.

    This is nothing more than a means of protecting the order and there's nothing 'fair' about it.

    It's today age old sell the opposite of what it is to the public idea. It's something sinister dressed up nicely for the untrained eye.
     
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  17. Hamish McMagdad

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    They wanted to prevent it full stop. As in related party sponsorship. They lost after getting legal advice on the matter. This is them saving face a bit. It's nowt to worry about man. I'm quite surprised you never read the full details on this so I will highlight the interesting bit for you which would have happened had this been prevented.

    This bollox is for first team only. It does not effect the development squads, academy's, women's teams and junior teams. Now if I was a multi billion pound company and I wanted to inject huge sums of cash into NUFC. I would sponsor the training ground, development squad, academy and women's teams and filter the cash in that way and allow them MV advertising with regards sponsorship, SJP etc.

    We won this mate. Its the dickheads trying to save face.
     
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    Don't get me wrong our situation has improved massively, but this is a play by the other clubs and is anything but 'fair' which has nothing to do with it. I will not yield.
     
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    Good post on one of the fansites, which showcases Man Utd's deals - not talking about the shirt or saying we can say Newcastle is as valuable a brand, but Man U have Remington as "Official Styling Partner", Melitta as "Official Coffee Partner" and Marriottt as "Official Hotel Partner". Anything that doesn't sit under a banner gets a tag of "Principal Partner". We could have an endless list.

    That's without even getting legal onto it - they could just cite Everton, or look wider at PSG, as a means to say "stop being ****ing silly". Besides which, things that would normally disappear from a clubs general finances - stadium development, training facilities, hiring of backroom staff - don't touch any financial fair play, so we could arguably just get external investment across all of these areas meaning every scrap of commercial income is put towards player acquisition.
     
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  20. Hamish McMagdad

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    If you remember your childhood days, in the playground kids would say "My Dads bigger than yours" in business it's "My legal team is bigger than yours" Guess who has a bigger legal team than all the rest?
     
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