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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by lifecheshirewhite, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. 2 pennth

    2 pennth Well-Known Member

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    He missed a zero off
     
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  2. OLOF

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    No i haven't
    It was a FOI request, {not from me}it did say it was Wales and England so not sure if it includes NI and Scotland, thought the figure was low myself but hey oh
    link to the actual ONS Web page and data keeps getting deleted... . Strange
     
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  3. Eric Le Merde

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    No don't think he has. Basically that's the number of people who were otherwise perfectly healthy who have died due to covid-19. I don't know how underlying conditions are defined but that seems to be a kosher number. I haven't been able to check the source data myself but from what I've seen and read that is the ONS figure. It does seem at odds with the data I can actually find on the ONS site that shows deaths where the underlying cause is covid to be well in excess of this number just for the first 3 quarters of 2021. It would be good to have a link to the source of the 17371 number.

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  4. OLOF

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    I've been on the ONS website a few times, they send you on a wild goose chase when you ask pertinent questions, follow this link, follow that link, and you end up back where you started, its like they're trying to hide something<whistle>

    Try a FOI request and ask how many people have died due to covid with no underlying illnesses whatsoever
     
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  5. esteponawhite

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    One of the Spanish regions, Galicia north east Spain, updates it's covid figures every day as do all the other regions.
    But they state the age of the people that have died, and if they had other health issues I have followed their data for a long time.
    Today as an example, 5 deaths ages 75,87,87,97 and 99.
    All with underlying health issues.
    This has been the norm for a long time all elderly people with other health issues.
    This gives a truer representation of the actual mortality rate.
     
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    Given the inaccuracy of the PCR test even those who tested positive for the virus which was attributed to their death is questionable.
     
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  7. wakeybreakyheart

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    If you say so
     
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  8. esteponawhite

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    I didn't say so, just showing some real data.
    Interpret it as you like.
     
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  9. Eric Le Merde

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    Having thought about this for a bit, given the age profile of the people who have died I'm surprised that they identified so many that didn't have underlying health conditions.

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  10. Irishshako

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    :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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    So Anti mask Meatloaf stood by his principles and died from Covid...<doh>
     
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  12. OLOF

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    ****ing hell Shako, how long have you been a coroner, you kept that quiet<yikes>
    You could have informed his family first before telling the world though, very unprofessional mate:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  13. Irishshako

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    Dont shoot the messenger Olof, in the paper today. Family well informed. <cheers>
     
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    And when he does recover he will have natural immunity with antibodys against covid so he then does not need to take anymore vaccines as his antibodys will protect him
     
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  15. Eric Le Merde

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    We'll they probably will until the virus mutates
     
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    Or he sustaines long covid or permanent damage to his lungs.
     
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  17. Eric Le Merde

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    There is that too
     
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  18. OLOF

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    Keep wearing your mask and stay locked in your bedroom, we'll get on with life:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  19. Eric Le Merde

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    No, not at all just stating the obvious that you catch a virus you get immunity, if you survive. The virus mutates your immunity may not be what you need to protect you.
     
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  20. sniffer1

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    True so the only answer is say NO to the vaccine as only less than 1% die from covid and nobody has died from omicron
     
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