Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61045810

 

I've not been on here for a week as I came down with what I thought was COVID again, even though I had it a month past. I had a temperature of 102f and a really bad headache and felt like ****, but I tested 3 times all negative. I could get my head off the pillow for 5 days, and how have a sore throat. I managed to get up yesterday and feel a bit better today, maybe I just got something different?

Pity I missed the Reading game.

 

I'm not convinced that quite a fair percentage had similar non-covid bug, but coincidentally tested positive for bits of the covid strain, so were classed as having covid. The testing regime would not isolate cases like that, as few if any other bugs were tested for, which is yet another flaw in the system.

 

Huddersfield pub landlord in court after 'man threw ping pong ball into cup of beer'.

The papers say that two people from Environmental health looked through one of the Showtime windows and saw a group of five men at the far end of the pub playing beer pong, stood next to them watching over the game in order to ensure compliance with Covid legislation, was Alex Snowball the co-founding director of Hellfire.

"The charge? One of the men threw the ping pong ball into a cup of beer and instead of sitting down to drink it, as he had been requested by Alex, he remained standing.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...pc=U531&cvid=278c74a84ab74bc4e5ca3a43655fd17e

 

A point oft made previously.

Alarming outbreak of children's hepatitis may have been brought on by Covid lockdown weakening immunity, health chiefs say as two more children need liver transplants in UK and dozens are sick.

• Officials said outbreak may be because children in 'formative' years were not exposed to common infections.
• In total, 114 cases of 'acute hepatitis of unknown origin' have been reported in the UK in the last four weeks.
• UK health officials say they have detected as many cases in three months as they would expect to see in a year.
• Majority spotted in under-5s who were initially hit with diarrhoea and nausea before later getting jaundice.
• Experts say lockdowns may have weakened immunity of children and left them more susceptible to the virus.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...itis-brought-lockdown-weakening-immunity.html

 

If the inquiry is truly thorough and open, I can see a lot of infighting and blame shifting ahead.

 

There wont be a thorough and open inquiry
Look at the fixed Iraq war inquiries

 

Look at Grenfell
The people were told to stay in their flats
I can understand if there was flames in the stairwells but I dont think there was
Wouldnt it be better if firefighters had gone up the stairwells and known which occupants of flats would have been safe to leave?

 

You have to have an understanding of how quickly these things happen, Pete.

I mean when you're actually there and in the moment and I don't just mean the fire service, but the occupants too.

I'd say the emergency services have balls of steel, just to be in that job in the first place.

Ridiculously hard decisions have to be made and I for one wouldn't like to make them.

 

I’ve got covid
Bit of head cold


Unless works reading this then I’m shivering back spasms dizziness fatigue no Sense of smell etc etc

 

You mean all those people with long Covid are swinging the lead?

 

Hypocritical convict ****s
Moment Covid struck Tahlia McGrath hugs Australia cricket teammates at Commonwealth Games 2022
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Tahlia McGrath was permitted to play at Edgbaston in yesterday despite testing positive. She bowled and batted in the match and also took the catch that dismissed 's star opener Shafali Verma as the Southern Stars took gold.

She batted at No4 without a mask before she was dismissed after scoring just two runs off four balls. McGrath then bowled two overs for 24 runs and also took a catch, when she held up her hands to warn her fellow players not to come and celebrate with her.

But when they won the game, McGrath jumped into the huddle and hugged her teammates. Australian bowler Megan Schutt said afterwards: 'If we get Covid, so be it'.

Had the match been played in Australia, McGrath would have been forced to isolate for seven days. But in the UK, where self-isolation rules are advisory only, Ms McGrath could play.

She had woken up with mild symptoms yesterday morning and then returned a positive test. However, she was still selected in the Aussies' XI after tournament organisers approved her participation following consultations before the toss, which was delayed.

McGrath did not line up with her team-mates during the pre-match national anthems and did not join them in the dugout while they were batting, instead sitting in the stands wearing a mask. After taking part in the match, Tahlia wore a mask at the medal ceremony and as she celebrated gold with her teammates on the podium, where she had her arms around Beth Mooney and Alana King.

She is understood to be the first player known to have Covid to take part in an international cricket match, with Birmingham allowing each positive athlete to be assessed on a case-by-case basis.

But critics have said she should not have been allowed to play. Many Indian supporters felt the decision was 'racist' and that India would have been ruled out of the final if the shoe was on the other foot. There was also anger because Indian para discus athlete Aneesh Kumar Pillai was banned from his Commonwealth final in Birmingham after testing positive for Covid-19. The virus was picked up by a random swab - and he was asymptomatic - but the Commonwealth Games Federation said he couldn't take part.

There were also claims of hypocrisy by the Australians, given their very hard line on lockdowns and vaccination to slow the spread. Their strict rules led to Novak Djokovic being excluded from the Australian Open tennis and deported - despite him not having Covid-19. Former prime minister Scott Morrison even spent $2billion of taxpayers' money on quarantine facilities now scattered around Australia that sit unused and empty.

One Australian tweeted that McGrath's participation 'makes a mockery of all the isolation we had to endure for the last three years'.

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When the gold was assured, Tahlia McGrath was right in the middle with her teammates hugging them, despite having covid

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Tahlia McGrath takes the catch that dismissed India's star opener Shafali Verma as the Southern Stars took gold.

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She warned her teammates not to come to celebrate with her

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McGrath (C) wearing a face mask, stand on the podium during the medal ceremony

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Tahlia McGrath wears a mask as she puts her arms around Beth Mooney (L) and Alana King (R) as the ticker tape falls following their win over India

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Tahlia McGrath runs up to bowl as the women's cricket final at the Commonwealth Games was shrouded in controversy

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Meg Lanning of Team Australia celebrates with team-mates after winning the Cricket T20 - Gold Medal match between Team India and Team Australia as Tahlia McGrath stands away (far right) having tested positive for covid but was allowed to play

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McGrath receives her medal whilst wearing a mask at Edgbaston. She was allowed to play but had to sit away from her teammates

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McGrath is seen isolating from her teammates as she waits to go out to bat in the final

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The toss was delayed as officials discussed whether allrounder Tahlia McGrath (centre) would be allowed to play, having returned a positive COVID-19 test

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Fans were unhappy that the Australians let McGrath play
Australia won the first-ever women's cricket gold after posting 161-8 from their 20 overs, then bowling India out for 152. McGrath stood on the podium with her team-mates again wearing a mask.

Opener Beth Mooney – who made 61 runs off 41 balls – said: 'It's a real shame that in elite sport you get publicly shamed for having Covid when over here probably 90% of the people in this room have it right now. No-one's testing, no-one's doing anything. It's just a real shame she couldn't celebrate with us, but at the same time I think the right decision was made in terms of letting her play. Hopefully people aren't too upset about it'.

Indian captain Harmanpreet Kaur said they found out about the positive covid test just before the toss. She said: 'That was something not in our control. The CWG had to take a decision and we were okay with it since she [Tahlia McGrath] wasn't very ill, so we decided to play. We had to show sportsman spirit. I'm happy we didn't say no to Tahlia, it [missing the final] would have been very hard-hitting for her.'

Sports reporter Naveen Sharma slammed the move as 'shameless' in a Tweet: 'Australians always preach about right or wrong but they forget everything when it comes to them.'

'Tahlia McGrath tested Covid positive. Yet she was allowed to play. Basically, all rules go haywire when Australia and England play. Imperialist mentality at its very best,' posted one angry fan.

'How racist they are. Imagine same happening with any Asian player they wouldn't have allowed at all,' said another.

'If the same would happen with Asian team the match would have been abandoned and opposition would get the gold,' another posted.

'How could this be possible... The umpires already stole the women's hockey semi-final from India too against Australia with bad umpirism, too much favouritism for Australia,' posted another.

A number of cricket fans pointed to Australia refusing to let tennis champion Novak Djokovic play in the Australian Open and called us hypocrites for allowing McGrath to play.

'So Australia can deny Djokovic from playing in the Australian Open for not being vaccinated but will allow a Covid +ve [sic] person to play a cricket match? And what is the point of testing if a Covid positive person can still play?' Mantavya asked in online commentary.

It wasn't just Indian supporters shocked and appalled by the decision, with many Australian fans questioning the decision as well.

'The team they played against should appeal to health organisation it's highly dangerous and not legal to endanger others health. Australia would be up in all sorts if it was other way around especially if we lost,' one Aussie fan posted.

'Absolute rubbish! Shouldn't be anywhere near others if she has it and India should refuse to play as a positive puts you out for everyone else. Why is it suddenly ok now?' posted another.

'This is strange. A positive test rules you out of contention. What if India refuse to take part on health grounds?' another said.

Australia held on to win by nine runs despite a brilliant knock by Indian skipper Harmanpreet Kaur, adding Commonwealth gold to World T20 and ODI success for this all-conquering side.

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Tahlia McGrath stands with the victorious Australia team, where they held hands and raised them aloft

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Members of Australian team pose with their gold medals after their win in the women's cricket T20 final match against India at Edgbaston at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham
Ash Gardner, the hero with the bat when Australia beat India to open the tournament, this time starred with the ball, taking 3-16 off three overs - including the match-turning wicket of Kaur.

After winning the toss and opting to bat, Alyssa Healy again failed to fire, out lbw for seven, but skipper Meg Lanning joined Beth Mooney for a 74-run partnership off just 47 deliveries.

Australia were looking comfortable, before a double piece of brilliance from Radha Yadav dragged India back into the contest.

First Yadav flicked the ball between her legs to catch Lanning short of her ground for 36 after backing up to far, before she plucked a diving catch off McGrath to dismiss the Australian No.4 in the next over.

Gardner pounded a quick-fire 25, but it was Mooney (61 off 41) who was holding the innings together before she was dismissed by a brilliant Deepti Sharma catch.

Sharma stuck out a hand to take a one-handed stunner.

After staring down 180-plus, Australia fell away towards the end and managed just 11 runs off the final two overs and reached 8-161.

India smacked 12 runs off the first over in reply but lost two quick wickets, with Darcie Brown bowling Smriti Mandhana behind her legs before Shafali Verma wasted her extra life to fall for 11.

But enter Harmanpreet Kaur, the Indian skipper looking like she would carry India to the gold medal on her own as she struck a brilliant 65 off 43 balls before holing out in the deep as Gardner picked up two wickets in two balls.

A Grace Harris direct hit helped stymie India as they were left needing 11 runs off the final over, but it only lasted three balls as Jess Jonassen claimed the final wicket to spark wild celebrations.

 

I’ve had Covid recently. Worst sore throat I’ve ever had in my entire life. Feels like swallowing glass. Apparently omicron is milder because it attacks your upper respiratory tract as opposed to your lower respiratory tract like delta. Still painful and not at all like a regular cold though.

 

Anyone on here not had it yet?

 

I haven't, although I did test positive on a lateral flow once.

 

Had it two weeks ago. All I can say to anyone is, keeping washing hands etc. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. The worst part for me, other than the loss of taste and smell is the head fog...

 

I haven't that I know of

 

With apparently a 3 in 10,000 chance of a false positive, I would be more dubious about the subsequent negative test if that was me.

I have no idea if I had it. I might have as I had fluey symptoms a few months back, but tested negative, but I have no faith whatsoever in the tests or my ability to test correctly.

 

I'm as certain as I can be that I didn't have covid.

I'm also reasonably confident that a fair percentage of people that had some sort of symptoms and tested positive, were not suffering from covid, but from one of the more common ailments that have become slightly more virulent, and immunity has been reduced due to lock down.

 

When I had it early this year it quickly turned from full on body-shaking flu into a streaming cold; snotty and sneezy. Nothing too bad thankfully. Fortunately no-one I know died of it but one was hospitalised for over a week and another needed an ambulance and ventilation (following a work trip to London in November 2019, before Covid officially existed in UK). A colleague has had it at least three times, having been one of the first in the UK to have had two variants. it has left him with long Covid.

Still seems to be everywhere, and I'm hearing a lot of ambulance sirens again in recent weeks, which makes me wonder what the stats are. Everyone I know says they've had it at some point.