Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

That sounds logical but in fact it's nonsense. There is nothing in identifying player skill that says it is confined to one way of playing. If you couldn't move from Brighton to Spurs and find suitable players then someone else is needed. Especially at Spurs because we don't have a long term philosophy anyway.

 

It isn't.

Luck can be a factor in pretty much any uncertain outcome...like getting the right questions in an exam. However, to say that exam results are based on luck is a nonsense. When Sam Goldwyn said...'The more I work, the luckier I get", he nailed it.

 

Marco Conterio is now saying the €45m clause for Porro could only be activated in the summer so Sporting are now asking for more money.

I reckon it’s bollocks but…

 

You first have to persuade me that this skill even exists. I don't see many clubs outperforming the league position that they ought to have from their wealth over a prolonged period. In fact the most clear example is probably Spurs and the vast majority on here think we are bad at choosing managers, buying players and developing youth.

 

What I am actually saying is that you need more data than people think to eliminate luck as a factor. When a team outside the top ten in wealth comes in the top 4 for 8 seasons running then I will concede that they have skill in player development, recruitment and or coaching. There has never been such a streak. The closest thing is Brian Clough's successes with Derby and Forest but even that petered out

 

Its bollocks mate. I'm sure we wouldn't have entered negotiations agreed personal terms with the player without knowing the clause can only be activated in the summer.

 

The release clause is certain to be confidential but the player can almost certainly reveal it to a potential buyer. In practice release clauses are rarely actually activated as they require the player to pay over the cash to his current club to release him from his contract and the buying club would only pay cash to a player to do that as an absolute last resort.

Getting a £40m deal over the line is not trivial in any way.

 

This is incorrect. Release clauses in many leagues on the continent are public and mandatory in contracts. The league is notified if the money is deposited and then the club can’t block the move. The player doesn’t buy themselves out of the contract.

 

Yes, because he and Taylor fell out and Taylor left.

 

Thanks for the clarification....where did you find this?

 

You didn't notice my deliberate pun....

 

Think you’ve looked at release clauses in another sense/ sport. As Hudd has said, release clauses are generally very public in a few leagues, often announced by club when a player signs/ renews their contract. They also don’t require the player to pay over the cash to their club, no transfer does as far as I’m aware, release clause or not.

 

Gordon to Toon been given the here we go by Rom.

Thank **** for that.

 

Spanish release clauses are set upon signing, due to a Royal Decree on welfare.
Any club wishing to trigger one needs to deposit the fee with their league.
They're also rather public. Pedri's one with Barca is €1bn.

 

I didn't think that you would acknowledge the departure of the specialist in player recruitment made any difference...unless you believed that he kept the lucky rabbit's foot.

 

I actually said that this was the example that came closest to not looking random. My main issue isn't that no-one has the skill, it's that even if they do it will be hard to pick those who do in advance.

 

Seeking excellence is hard...

...which is why it's rare - like the success that it brings.

 

Yep, it`s called Daniel Phillip Levy. These tiresome delays are either Levy up to his old tricks again, haggling over small details, moving the goalposts, going back on his word etc etc, or after decades of dealing with Levy`s penny pinching, clubs around Europe are so annoyed that they are now giving Levy a dose of his own medicine. Other clubs rarely seem to have these problems, yet most of Spurs` deals drag on and on and on.

 

Presumably Chelsea offering a 150 year contract?

 

This is absolute nonsense.
Every fanbase has this opinion, as they don't pay attention to other clubs' deals.

When we nicked Danjuma the other day I browsed the Grand Old Team forum.
What were Evertonians saying? Why can't we do quick deals like Tottenham do?
Every club has quick deals and ones that drag out, even the massive overspending ones.