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Southampton fan in peace - The Damned United

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by saintgreg10, Nov 12, 2011.

  1. saintgreg10

    saintgreg10 Well-Known Member

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    Southampton fan in peace here. Despite the film being out for several years now, I have only just watched The Damned United.

    It got me on to thinking, what Leeds fans feelings were towards the film? I couldn't help but feel that the film portrayed Leeds United in a rather unfavourable way. Perhaps it was to create more 'movie drama', but I didn't think it was fair or at all accurate. Does it bug you that outsiders could view your club in a bad way thanks to the influence the film may have had? Also, do you actually think it's a good or bad film?

    I'd love to have a film made about my club, but not in the way that the Damned United has portrayed your great club.

    P.S - Apologies for bringing up old news by the way
     
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  2. lifecheshirewhite

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    Most hated us before the film,but we thrive on it.
     
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  3. ristac

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    The film didn't bother me, some fans hate us some don't give a toss. I have friends who support Liverpool, Manchester, Spurs and Chelsea, I don't hate them personally because of who they support. Many neutrals might hate Leeds at the moment because of the Ken Bates saga and who really owns Leeds Utd (or did own). I don't blame them for that as I also hate Ken Bates. I dislike things that are wrong about the team I love and support and I hope one day those things will be corrected. My own personal opinion on the film was that it made Clough look poor, he was nothing without his right hand man and he was useless at handling the personalities that he took charge of.
     
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  4. Best Fans

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    No-one was portrayed well in the film. But it's not uncommon for players to be resentful against a new manager coming to replace a long term successful one (Man Utd after Busby left...). Especially as Clough was so insulting towards the players, you can't really blame them. The way they portrayed the interview where Revie trashed him was great.

    Good film though, really enjoyed it. I love the hatred we get! Been out the Premier League for 8 years, and clubs across the country still sing about how they hate us.
     
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  5. DirtyLeeds

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    The book was far darker than the film. I think they had to take the edge of the film to make it more commercial and also to avoid any lawsuits from the Clough family.

    It's easy to forget that the book is not really 'about' Leeds, it's about Brian Clough and is a fictionalised account of his 44 day tenure as Leeds manager, with many flashbacks to the journey that brought him to elland Road.

    The fact that is a fictionalised account means the author can take liberties with the truth. There are many incidents that are basically made up (some would say downright lies) and of course Leeds United end up on the wrong end of these many innacuracies. Johnny Giles was so incensed at the protrayal of Leeds and himself in particular that he took him to court and won.

    In fact, Avatar is more realistic and historically accurate.
     
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  6. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    Brian Clough was made to look a bellend. I didn't know most of it wasn't actually true.

    My dad said Clough was pretty horrible in reality though.
     
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  7. King-Cellino-Is-God

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    I personally hate it for it's untrue and unfair portrayal of our team, players and manager, it picks out videos of us playing (by today's standard) dirty football but it doesn't show how that was how every team played. Everyone remembers Norman Hunter as some kind of thug but what about Chelsea's Ron Harris? every team had hard men, every team had brawls, every team played dirty sometimes it was how football was in the 60s and 70s but the only club that every get's highlighted is us. We don't care about been hated (in fact we like it) but it pains me how such a great, talented team is written off as dirty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5N0pycFtmU&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvyJKWF5Q74 . They portray Billy Bremner as a bully and thug but my mum used to play with his daughter when she was a kid and she told me he was one of the nicest men you could meet and always used to bring them drinks. Btw they also changed the scores. The last Derby v Leeds game where Derby won (to give Clough his dream eventual win over the big bad Leeds) was actually in real life a draw and the players were respectful of Brian Clough while he was manager despite been resentful of his appointment against the wishes of Don Revie. People believe it like a documentary but everyone from those days and who knew the people in it say it was nothing like how it was in the Damned Utd.
     
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  8. Farsleyexile

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    i started following LUFC 40 years ago,i saw some crap,some good,i love my team,period,love Leeds!!!!
     
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  9. billyboy

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    we had fooking jock stein for 44 days

    then we got clough the puff for 44 days---un-believable----wot ****ing ****ers---r.i.p---king don
     
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  10. OLOF

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    ****'em, the book was fiction based on fact, we were one of the best, if not. the best football team this country has ever seen, if you wanted to play football you would get ****ed. if you wanted to get rough you would get ****ed, and the southern media didn't like it, hence the bad press.
    Clough should never have been made manager of Leeds United, he was one of the main instigators in the "dirty leeds" bollocks, like the rest 'em, he was a jealous bastard, but jumped at the chance to be a part of it.
     
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  11. Jerel Ifil

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    The film has an awful lot of inaccuracies in it and definitely represents the Revie team's footballing ability unfairly, as well as their personalities. But at the end of the day, it raises more attention about our club so I'm glad it was made. That opening segment where 'Marching on Together' plays to a montage of 70s Leeds moments is wonderful too!
     
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  12. JonnyLosAngeles

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    Although I enjoyed the film for what it is - entertainment, the trouble with a film like this is that it is basically historic fiction which some may believe to be fact if they do not know the actual history behind it.

    The casting of the footballers was shocking - likeness to the real people was not close for many of them and they clearly could not kick a ball properly! I also thought the ending credits summations of the careers of Don Revie and Brian Clough were very biased.
     
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