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This is not a team capable of winning the play-offs

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Beverley_Tiger_998, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. pierredelafranchesca

    pierredelafranchesca Well-Known Member

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    anyone know where we stand on corner count this season? Discounting the goal McLean scored vs Peterboro as it wasn't direct from the corner we must be approaching around 150 corners without scoring directly this season I reckon, that is criminal
     
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  2. Hessle Tiger

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    You lot make me want to tear my ****ing hair out! What a load of whining, whinging tossers you really are! We are currently sat in 5th place, 6 points off the automatic promotion places are you're moaning like its the end of the world! Get a ****in grip!

    This is football, you dont win every game, you dont score in every game, strikers have tough patches, they miss sitters, defenders make cock ups, keepers make howlers, and thats how its always been! So instead of getting on the players backs, get behind them!

    I don't care how much you "think" you know about this team and these players, but I bet it aint half as much as Nicky does, so how about you have a little faith and trust his decisions?!

    and for **** sake, stop with the moaning!
     
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  3. StrovolosTiger

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    I think you are simplifying what people are saying there.

    The problem I feel is frustration. People see that we DOMINATE sides with our passing and movement. They see that and assume, quite rightly, that such good play should be rewarded with goals. That is not happening and it hasn't been happening for a long while probably for 12 months now.

    If we were inconsistent, but scoring, it would be easier (not better) for fans because you can accept when you don't play well, you don't deserve to get anything. That ISN'T what is happening. We are regularly playing well and not getting reward and it's all for the same reason. WE HAVE NOT GOT A GOALSCORER TO REGULARLY SCORE GOALS.
     
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  4. Hessle Tiger

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    I dont think I'm simplifying what people are saying. I'm not asking for a new striker to solve our problems. We dont have a problem, as the league table proves. I've got a completely different view to the poodles on here. Do people not grasp the concept of form??

    We dont have a "goalscorer" yet we're sat happily in 5th place. Would you take 5th place at the end of the season?? Of course you would! Our strikers arent all of a sudden **** are they? For all we know Fryatt could get his spark back next week. THATS FOOTBALL!

    I dont care if its Koren from 25 yards, McLean from 2 yards, or Mannone from 100 yards. Or whether we win 1-0 or 10-0.

    We're 6 points off the automatic spot, surely we're doing something right, no?
     
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  5. Amin Yapusi

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    We do need a striker to solve our problem, we do have a problem as the goals column proves. We don't have a goalscorer and were sat nervously in 5th place, I'd love to finish 5th but it won't happen if we can't score, you need at least 1 goal to win a game. Our strikers aren't **** all of a sudden, they've been **** all along. I'd much rather it be 10-0 than 1-0 and the way we've played in some games that score line wouldn't have been far from a fair result if our players could actually score. We're 6 points off the autos but ruined every chance to make up ground on those places by not finishing our chances, we could be occupying one of those spots no IF WE COULD SCORE!!
     
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  6. pierredelafranchesca

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    The first point a lot of people are making is that with our lack of a cutting edge, the strengthening of our rivals and good form of teams like Birmingham thatwhilst we are in 5th place now, there is a danger that if we continue to miss chances and drop points that come the end of the season we could miss out on the playoffs, the second point is that with our current team we're sitting fifth and doing well, but people are postulating that the addition of a genuine goal scorer that we would have a much better chance of breaking into the top 2 and going up automatically.

    Neither of these concepts are particularly hard to grasp
     
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  7. Hessle Tiger

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    Clearly we have been scoring though, otherwise how did we get to 5th? The goals scored column isnt a problem, unless the goals against column is higher, which its not.

    Anyway, isnt Josh King a striker?
     
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  8. Hessle Tiger

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    No, they are not. What is hard to grasp is the fact that eveyone on here seems to know more about the team than the manager. When in fact, they do not! Have a little faith that Nicky knows what he is doing and that the players we have are capable of leading this team to promotion. Whilst it is possible that we could drift out of the playoff reckoning, whats stopping this team from continuing as it has all season and us ending up exactly where we are or better?
     
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  9. pierredelafranchesca

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    What's stopping the team is the inability to score goals, 2 goals in our last 6 league games is a worrying statistic, we've relied heavily on Koren this season to score, if he gets injured or loses form then we COULD be in the shyte. I think most fans have faith in Barmby, as I do, but it is pretty damn obvious that we need someone to put the ball in the net. Under Pearson we put it down to the style of play employed, under Barmby we are more attacking, but are still struggling to score, this points towards the finishing ability of the team rather than the manager's ability.

    And at the moment Josh King is looking like Manucho mark 2
     
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  10. Hessle Tiger

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    After how long on the pitch? Give him a break for **** sake.
     
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    Well I am certainly not worried. But I'm not blind either.

    We are in the play-off spots and I think that is where we will end up come 46 matches played. This is fantastic!

    Before the start of the season I thought the best we would manage was 11th or 12th spot.

    But................... I don't think we will win the play-offs or even through to the final.

    Becasue we don't have enough of a cutting edge. We haven't addressed it yet either.

    Aaron Mclean has what? 7 goals in ~ 50 matches. We need someone who can score one in three on average.

    Fryatt - imho he is doing about enough. He just needs Barmby to give him a run.

    As for the rest of the strikers on our books, I don't think any of them are worth keeping.

    I hope we can remedy things in the summer, becasue that is our only real problem. A cutting edge.
     
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  12. Hessle Tiger

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  13. John. Walkington.

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    Play-offs? What Play-offs?
    We're still going for the automatic.
     
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  14. Hessle Tiger

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    Thats the spirit!
     
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  15. StrovolosTiger

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    If I were you, I'd stop the "Poodles" lark, it's disrespectful and frankly it makes you look stupid. This is a messageboard and people have the right to air their views. To pigeonhole everyone who has a criticism of what happens at Hull City Football Club as a poodle, is exclusive and not what this forum is all about. If you want to dismiss peoples views rather than debate with them, perhaps you would be better off viewing the CI messageboard.
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    I think either Nick needs to bring in someone who can fit the formation he wants to play, or he needs to switch to playing a formation that suits the players he's already got.

    If we do nothing, we're unlikely to remain in the top six for the rest of the season, you can't drop points against the weakest teams in the league and still expect to stay there.

    We're very close to having a promotion side, if we keep falling short as we have done recently, then I'm sure we'll take advantage of the emergency loan window.
     
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  17. Craigo

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    Last season we scored 52 goals in 46 games (with 5 of those coming in one game against S****horpe). This season we have 28 goals in 28 games with pretty much the same strikers, so the scoring rate is fairly consistant over the two seasons.
    Pearson identified that he needed a big striker to get the best out of the others, but he could only afford Adebola who has proved inadequate for that task.
    Judging by this and other City forums / radio etc the vast majority of fans agree that a big striker has been a priority for a long time (and some of those fans have had a lifetime of watching football so their opinions should not be ignored).

    Yes we can possibly make the play-offs with a team heavily reliant on its defence to counter the lack of goals, but if we had invested in one big marauding striker to get the best out of Fryatt and co. the automatic spots could be much more achievable and the odds on not only reaching the play-offs but winning them would also be higher.
     
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  18. westhulltiger

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    How long can he leave it though? when does the loan window open?
     
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  19. westhulltiger

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    Barmby will not buy or loan a big centre forward, he wants to play the ball on the deck with technically gifted players
     
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    It opens in a week and remains open until the end of March(I think).
     
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