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A summary of why we are not happy.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Samurai, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. Samurai

    Samurai Active Member

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    People in the media constantly berate us for not supporting the team. Here is a list of reasons why we're not happy. Please, feel free to use them when these arseholes question our commitment to the club.

    1) We pay the highest ticket prices in the world, to see mid-table form.

    2) The board is terribly run. Former remember Bracewell-Smith even said that they should all be sacked, after selling her stake.

    3) Either Arsene Wenger or the Board has refused to sign players that have been needed. I am firmly of the belief that we would have won the title last year had we signed a centre back and we lost at least 9 points due to an end of season collapse because of the lack of morale and "what's the point anyway, we're out and there's no difference between 2nd and 4th!".

    4) This past transfer window, again, no players, even when quality was available. The bare minimum could have been Taye Taiwo, a solid left back available on loan. Other targets should have been versatile attacker Clint Dempsey and Bobby Zamora, a proven finisher, which is what we need right now. All available if we'd shown intent.

    5) We are fed bullshit by the management. I wouldn't even mind the form we are on right now if wenger didn't chat so much **** about mental strength and stuff. And what the **** does Stan Kroenke even do?

    6) Wenger sticks by players who clearly can't cut it. Squillaci, for example. He was very lucky to inherit one of the best defences in the land, otherwise he may not have done as well as he did in the early stages of his tenure.

    7) This policy of buying youth is terrible. It has produced good talent, granted, but aside from Van Persie and Fabregas, how much of it has matched what the invincibles had? Wilshere, maybe one day. Oxocube as well. But that's it. Two world class players over a period of 8 years, with another two finally emerging. Oh, and we sold Fabregas anyway.

    8) Broken Promises. Simple.

    "We're moving from Highbury to compete with the best!!! (because what the **** have we won here recently, 2006)"

    We could have won a trophy by now if we'd have kept our star players. Aside from Fabregas, which was unavoidable, why didn't we raise our wage cap to keep the likes of Hleb, Flamini, Diarra, Nasri, Toure, Clichy, etc?

    9) Media being clueless.

    Our away support is amongst the best in the league, no-one seems to notice that.

    Also, no-one notices the **** we're going through at the moment and how bad it really is.
     
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  2. MrWright!

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    But agree with the rest, were in trouble an somethin needs to be done!
     
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  3. shaxi

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    :emoticon-0111-blushmaybe you are right , but you can't change anything at present !

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  4. theHotHead

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    MrWright stop using those tired dead excuses that have been proved to be factually incorrect for ages now.

    1) in 15 years Wenger has built one good defence, the Invincibles, and they were disbanded in 2006.

    2) Our stadium debt is NOT hindering us from buying players, the debt is manageable and not reliant on us selling players.
     
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  5. Jamrag

    Jamrag Well-Known Member

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    but it's ok for your fellow doom merchants to boo during a match as that negativity wouldn't transmit to the players, would it.

    You couldn't make it up! <doh>
     
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  6. Grizzly

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    With respect, 7th is not mid table, 10th is mid table and we're 8 points in front of 10th, and if you do class 7th as mid table then this is the first time we've been mid table since the mid 90s.

    Yes there are issues, but exagerating the facts doesn't increase credibility....
     
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  7. But my friend, Jayram doesn't control these vocal fans at the match, does he?

    There was a thread just after the weekend where some members offered that this activity could be a lift to players. I would prefer a positive style of encouragement myself but all this agony felt by fans is a result of how the club has been allowed to slide so far from being competitive at the highest level. Perhaps I have little recollection of the mid 80s when it is with some frequency offered in discussions that we did not do very well and I suppose clubs do have changes in their fortunes but I really do think that if one looks at the reasons behind our decline, if it may be described as such, one can see that they could have been better managed.


    Peace.
     
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  8. leethegunner

    leethegunner Member

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    WHAT THE ****? you know nothing if this is what you think.
    bracewell smith said what she said after she was sacked from the board and then repeated it when you stated.

    the board are still the same players who won us our last title apart from 3 ppl (dein, bracewell, fizman) so we are run the same

    its not about not signing players its about getting players here that will accept 90k top whack wages why would they join us when they can go man city/chelsea (mata/nasri for example)

    and the broken promises could you state some plz because i dont think theres is, wenger aint said we will bid for this player or that or even that he will be spending 50 odd mill every window

    untill you can make sense and back up your theories. **** off
     
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  9. MrWright!

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    1) maybe so, but the point was that without inheriting a defence he's done **** all, just pointing out that he CAN do it...

    2) and not technically, we could buy players and add more debt to the club, but the club want to pay off the debt be completely paid off, then spend anything they want, could do with increasing the debt abit now to make sure we stay properly competitive i agree, but that was the point of them doing it
     
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  10. theHotHead

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    MrWright - this is the problem - look at the Invincibles defence:

    Lauren - solid RB.
    Toure - super cheap.
    Campbell - free.
    Cole - product of youth.
    Lehmann - solid GK.

    Why did it take so long for Wenger to build a decent defence after the Invincibles ??? The Invincibles defence was proof that we didn't need the best players who would command the highest wages.

    LeeTheGunner - your emotional outburst proves one thing alone. You can't argue <ok>

    The board are NOT the same you muppet. There are 6 board members, Gazidis and Kroenke were NOT board members when Arsenal last won the title, that leaves 4 current board members. At least 3 are not here anymore. So HALF the board pretty much have gone !

    You go on about wages, total rubbish. City and Chelsea have a 25 man squad, therefore they CANNOT buy every player that is good. both clubs will have 50 players in their squad. Lets add Man U and Liverpool in there. Hell, lets add Real Madrid, Barcelona and every other club who can afford higher wages than us. There is only a finite number of squad places available but there are lots of footballers in the world. From the number of available footballers NOT at the biggest clubs there are many that are good enough for us to buy.

    We can afford higher wages than Spurs but Spurs have at least 4 players that would walk into Arsenal's first team. How on earth have they managed that when players will only go to City or Chelsea <doh>
     
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  11. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    Well said!
     
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  12. leethegunner

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    the chairman is still the same so its still run the same no matter who comes in unless there is a full clear out with just one owner then it will remain the same. kronke is not the owner just yet he must own 80% of the club to be classed the owner.

    can you name a player thats on under 65k at city or chelsea that is in that 25 man squad? what is mata on at chelsea?????? that is the main reason we didnt get him if chelsea had not have came calling then he would of been an arsenal player and i reckon we wouldnt of brought OX

    we maybe can afford more wages than spurs but theirs is more spread out than ours but we cant have every 1st teamer on 85k a week now can we? but all the players that are linked with us would only probs come because of wenger being here most will go to other clubs look at hazard we were the 1st interested in him along with RM now its both manchester clubs chelsea and even spurswhich one do you think he will end up at????
     
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