Contingency - What if.....?

Like many on here i am absolultley gutted that we lost at the weekend, and like Norwich, am fairly convinced that we would have won with 11 players on the pitch.

This article is not so much about the will we or won't we get relegated, but wanting to see what people's thoughts are on what the contingencies are for if we get relegated. I think we are starting to look very competitve, but as we know, no team is too good to go down. I don't doubt MH's commitment to the long-haul, but what about the new arrivals? Are they going to be willing to take half a step back to take steps foward next year? Or are we going to be left crippled and left floundering? The TF revolution is now in fall swing, but is it going to be stopped before it gets started?

 

West Brom are above us with a 5 point cushion and a point each higher are Fulham & Villa. We are now cut adrift with Wolves, Blackburn, Bolton, and Wigan. I can only see one of these 5 clubs getting relegated and with the loss to Wolves we can only survive if everyone else in this group fares worse than us.

It all looked so promising and every single pundit and commentator reckoned that QPR would be safe from the drop with the new manager and decent signings we made before the end of January but there are cracks that we have conveniently papered over that are now glaringly obvious.

We don't have the luxury of time to allow the new players to bed in, they have to hit the ground running and even with the sending off and forced substitutions due to injuries we should have had enough about us to prevent the two goals. Wolves were dead and buried after the opening goal and I don't doubt that we'd have gone on to win if that useless clown Clattenburg hadn't sent Cisse off.

It needs an immediate response and Sparky needs to have the balls to pick the team on form, not reputation, and drop the likes of Barton and SWP or we are for the drop.

 

To be honest the way we fell apart against Villa and Wolves, I think we may have lost Sataurday with 11 men on the pitch. The game had already turned Wolves way before Cisse was sent off, when Frimpong went out injured, OHara was it came on, and suddenly from it being all us, it was all them. Think they pushed more men forward at us, and continued to do so obviously when we went down to 10 men. We weren't handling it well even with 11 men, and didn't until Adel decided he'd give it a go in the last 15 minutes or so.

 

Have to take issue with that Oslo. It was Frimpong's injury that forced them to change shape true enough, but it was Ebanks-Blake that came on, switching them to 4-4-2. But I couldn't see any other result other than a Rangers win till the sending off. Wolves were awful and I'm sure we would have stuck in 2 or 3 more goals. Also, take a look at Dave's Adel highlights on another thread, he was outstanding ALL game....not just the last 15 mins!!

 

I agree Adel had a good game and worked well defensively thoughout, but after Frimpong went off we didn't get at Wolves at all again until near the end. And what I meant was that it was Adel that was instrumental in nearly rescueing a point near the end. Barton as well forced thei rkeeper into a very good save. Obviously having only 10 men didn't help us, but it had started to go wrong before the sending off, and we were pretty pathetic from then until the last 20 minutes or so.

 

if we go down, and that's a big if, the players signed on silly money contracts will hopefully have clauses written in them which reduces their salary immediately.
However, we are a team that has had decent money invested in and I think we will stay up. MH will need to address the mentality of the players and i agree with Rangercol that we would have won if we had kept 11 men on the park. that said, Ebanks-Blake coming on helped Wolves, and he was a player we have been after so it's not as though were not aware of his power.
at the start of the season, I along with many other would have readily bitten off your hands for the spot we currently occupy after the last ball has been kicked in this season. There is also a side that usually slips from a mid tablish position and, with no disrespect aimed at Villa or WBA, both of those sides are struggling to get points.

 

Fernandes is on record as stating that there is a plan B should the unthinkable happen. We feel the pain and we wait. That is all we can do.

 

Not sure we'd keep Cisse/Zamora/Taarabt/Onouha/Barton (good!) if we go down. Taiwo wouldn't sign either.

 

My big concern is not about individual players staying with us following relegation - such a restructuring would be perfectly normal - but about the commitment of the owners to the long haul. Dont get me wrong, I think TF and AB are fantastic, but they have recently set their stall out clearly around the notion of staying up this year and then immediately continuing to build from there in the next few years (NOT the next decade or so which would become the kind of timeline for success should we go down again). And they have backed that tactic with a ton of new cash and sacked their steady eddie manager into the bargain. This is a really BIG change from the type of noises being made at the start of the year when relagation was not seen as a disaster. They have a business plan in mind and like any such plan it will be reviewed and perhaps drastically amended should we go down including the possibility of withdrawing. This has become a pivotal season in the history of QPR.

 

Agreed, we can kiss goodbye to any new stadium if we are in the Championship and say a fond farewell to the owners not long after the drop. There are plenty of established Premiership clubs who would welcome their investment if they pulled out of QPR.

 

Jeez guys your a depressive lot... Wish I'd never opened this thread.

 

It wouldn't make sense to ditch us straight after we drop if that happened. After what has been invested why go and start elsewhere. Better to bounce straight back with a good core. However I personally would rather focus on the positives we have here at present and firmly believe we will survive. My actual hope is we can close the gap above us and finish in a respectable position. Whilst it is good to have a plan B which TF has stated he has it doesn't help anyone to focus on that. Thats why it's a plan B! Turn to it when A has failed. As yet A has not failed so we trust TF, who is a shrewd businessman, to have all bases covered and give our full backing and support to plan A.

 

I don't see the owners ditching the club if we go down. QPR is part of the Fernandes and Mittal corporate empires. If one of their companies doesn't perform, they don't ditch it and invest in someone else's. They make sure it does perform. They're not football people, they have a steep learning curve, but by the end of this season, whichever way it goes, they will be wiser and more experienced men.

 

Knock it off with them negative waves, man!

Come on lads, this is all way too negative for my taste. I was as miserable as anyone about what happened on Saturday (just ask my missus), but we’ve got to try and pick out the positives. With 11 men we were by far the better side, we are still not in the bottom three, our new preferred strike force of Cisse and Zamora look like they will work well together and that we are now capable of getting a few goals (they both scored on their respective debuts, that’s got to be a good sign), plus Taarabt and Buz are back and have both shown that they can be premier league quality after all!
If we get behind the team and help them to bring back 3 points from Ewood Park next weekend things will look very different.
U Rsss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I agree that Plan A is much more preferable. I was just thinking about what Plan B was, and what it would look like, and hope that our esteemed owners are not in Venky's land, with all their eggs in one basket. I wouldn't say that this is particulary negative and am well behind the team; i just think it is realistic to think of the worse case scenario and what you may need to do.

 

Look the simple fact is that our destiny remains within our own hands. We can make survival a reality.

Yes we've had setbacks but so have most of the bottom 5. I still think we will perform better than our relegation rivals which will keep us up

I take some comfort in the fact that we never do anything the easy way, surely this is the norm?

 

Yes Wubba, this is QPR, normal is abnormal, never do something the simple way and we always take it to the limit. I have a feeling that we will nick one or two unexpected results and when we come to the day of reckoning we'll be ok...

 

What worrys me is that the last 7 games look daunting tbh. We do play Stoke, Swansea and WBA in that time but other than that we probably wont pick up too many points - even in those 3 games confidence may be low if we have gone on a run without a point/win.

We have played half of the key fixtures we were all saying we need to do well in, and so far we havent picked up points that we should and need to. That draw after being 2-0 up at Villa could cost us, as could Cisse's moment of madness.

 

You're right judo but then I heard on the wireless tonight that Blackburn are considering charging their best player samba with a breach of contract law suit. If that's not completely nonsensical what is?

Up the R's!

 

At least season ticket prices would go down next year