I know we are sick of talking about it, but.......

You proved his point by paraphrasing Hillsborough and Heysel in the same sentence/context.

 

Well that would still be a valid point, the media will continue to spout whatever supports its own agenda and we wont change that, but we can challenge knobheads on here who talk ****e about the suarez case eg YOU!

 

I have no idea what this means....my understanding is that hysel should never have been used as a stadium as it was inadequate which made the events so tragic to and cover up this incompetent and tragic decision blame was just placed on all pool fans when the vast majority went to enjoy a european final.

 

My reply was based on your comment about Hllsborough,Heysel and the press.

But to be fair rcl your last comment was so spot on i owe you an apology.

I hope you take it.

 

I havent said anything here about the suarez case so wind your neck in.
Last weeki gave an opinion on it and a guy thought i was on a wind up so i explained i werent, apologised and left the debate....so to be honest you come across as a bit childish calling me a knobhead.
I just expressed concern about a comment sounding like it was drawing parallels with real tragedies....so get of your high horse and chill the **** out

 

Of course mate....you get loads of morons chatting **** about pool fans and hysel....banter is one thing but thats pretty sick imo...

 

Nice one mate.

 

Oh yeah???

You just appear to be some bipolar gob****e who doesn't know what he has written.

 

Terrifict....
YEAH....

Originally Posted by Davidako
Given that Tottenham have a large Jewish support, and given that "dog" is historically a term of contempt used by Jewish people to refer to Gentiles, it would be very easy to conclude that those of you comparing players to dogs are racist scum.

However, since I am not Evra, I won't bother wilfully misinterpreting you. See how easy it is though?

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You really need help... Seriously...
You dream up any excuse you want to justify the disgraceful of Suarez (its cultural) the embaressment of your manager and players defending the indefensable (we can show our player that we know he's innocent) the outragous treatment of the oldham player (prove it...its a media conspiracy) the scum
bloke doing monkey noises at evra (well its banter innit)....give it a ****ing rest ....there aint no conspiracy just a twat footballer who made racist comments... get over it ....but dont make comments about our clubs jewish links and then claim you could make a false racism claim against us (like the nasty evra man did against the poor suarez lad)... Your pityful self whinging is pathetic.
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This (above) is the full rather than selectively edited version of the post you have quoted.
As you can see it was aimed at ONE twat (all teams have them) who used some quote from an anti semetic website to have an unacceptable swipe at spurs jewish heritage....especially as the article was about Suarez's challenge on Scott Parker on Monday!!!!
My point was ONLY AT HIM!

To selectively quote me out of context rather then simply say oppps....sorry mate says **** loads about you not me.

And if you bothered to read further posts I've made you'd see my apology for appearing to be on a wind up and my jokey 'I don't like pool cos you beat us 7 nil and cos all my school mates in London were glory hunters' contributions....

So....once again wind your neck and chill the **** out or hold your hands up and simply say opps...it really aint that hard!

 

Yeah because there has been a history of abuse, persecution and opression solely on people being fat, skinny and lanky. You just continue to show why people laugh at you brainless scousers.

 

Now there is brilliant myopic reply. Can you not see that your own attitudes are discriminatory and displayed in the words that you use?

If you ever learn how to post a considered point then come back - I'm sure that there are many who would be prepared to debate with you. However, as it stands you identify yourself as a WUM.

 

Please tell me the difference between me referring to your skin colour or by your weight? Seeing as both are based on your physical attributes.

 

And someone who is badly overweight might be seriously affected by it and be genuinely hurt by a callous reference to it.

 

Someone can lose their weight, not change their color genius.

 

No they are not you clown. What's the point debating with people who will continue to defend Suarez and claim what Evra should/shouldn't be offended by?

 

You were asked to proffer a considered opinion. I would suggest that you go back and read the FA report (and in particular the testimony of the language experts) before making such ill-informed comments. You will at least find that Suarez never used the word in either Spanish or English that Evra accused him of using. So by mishearing something you take offence?

 

Man United supporter:

My thoughts are;

- Suarez is a piece of ****, albeit a very competitive one. Ask anyone here in Holland, even former Ajax fans what they think of him. To think that he didn't intend to use Evra's skin colour in a derogatory fashion - is incredible. There is not a conspiracy against him or Liverpool. He used a racial insult and has been punished for it.

- Evra also insulted Suarez, by means of a slur against his sister - which apparently is deemed acceptable. Someone tell me why it's okay to offend a person's family, but not the colour of their skin? We can't blame Evra, or the FA for this either. It's a social issue.

- It is easier for a person to become desensitised to an insult or slur, than it is to expect everyone around you to modify their behaviour to fit your needs. That does not mean it is okay to insult or abuse someone, but it does mean that you should 'grow a pair' and get on with it. Words cannot hurt you. What really offends a person is the intention behind the words. And no-one can stop a person from having intentions to offend you, in a sporting arena or elsewhere.

 

You wrote this did you not - "You just continue to show why people laugh at you brainless scousers." ?

That's a descriminatory remark about scousers hence why you were told that your words show your discrimination and attitude towards a whole group of people - which is true.

Most people aren't defending Suarez they are critical of the flawed system that 'judged' him guilty. Evra can feel upset by what he wants - and he does...continually!

 

Well what about gingers? They are born with ginger hair and they will die with ginger hair.

So you think it is okay to insult someone based on their weight then? Either way, both references are on physical attributes.

 

Are you seriously trying to compare racial abuse to taking the piss out of someone for being fat or ginger?