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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by billzfantazy, Apr 3, 2011.

  1. monacoger

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    Racist!(also, tell me who Trev really is please, its making my brain hurt!)
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

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    positive discrimination mick
     
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  3. billzfantazy

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    Well said MalteseMick. Still not sure if Stopmeandslapme is on the wind up, but on balance he probably isn't.
     
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  4. monacoger

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    Not liking the EDL is technically bigoted/racist. You are pre-judging
     
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  5. NobbysTeeth

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    So its the dole centre bureaucrats who are the real benefit cheats.Maggie Maggie Maggie.Out! Out! Out!(and the david CAMELTOE coaliton2)
     
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  6. monacoger

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    Nobby, you are evidently a left wing scumbag with no money. Pauper!
     
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  7. LuxWFC

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    I'm on the dole right now because I was laid off my work.

    It took 4 months of hard work, countless interviews and what not to get it....yet a few months later I'm back in the same situation.

    Simply put....there isn't enough jobs to get by! I was lucky.....apparently out of 30 vacancies where I applied over 2000 were vying for them.....no idea how I ended up with the job.

    Anyway.....I didn't really think about them doing this but I think I've experienced it too. I went in for one of my fortnightly sign ins and had forgotten to fill in my book detailing what I've been doing to try and get a job. I offer to do it there and then, but I was forced to go through pointless Bureaucracy despite pointing out that I'd done all of this perfectly fine for the last 3 months and that I had letters and emails to prove that I'd been applying for jobs.....

    So I'm then told someone in charge would speak to me soon...so I wait 20 minutes and they then go off to lunch and refuse to see me! They then tell me that I could go home and they'd get in touch with me to discuss the matter.....but they don't! All I get in the post is them notifying me that I had not taken sufficient measures to find a job and that my case would be under review and my claim may be cancelled. This letter took like 12 days to arrive, so it's pretty much already time for me to sign in again but by now I've actually gone and secured a job....so I come in expecting difficulty with getting my money running up until when I began employment but they just said "It's ok you'll get your money don't worry about the review".

    To me it showed a real lack of care and they were simply trying to kick me off for no reason because they could. The procedure for proving that you are applying for jobs is lacklustre....all you have to do is write in a book "I appled for X job bla bla bla" 3 times a week and they won't even follow up on it to make sure.

    TL,DR (too long, didn't read) They're mugs.
     
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  8. Mick

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    I signed on once, I never got any money as I couldn't bring myself to go back to that office after two weeks to confirm I hadn't found work. I don't know about anyone else but I don't feel angry or jealous at someone who willfully and deliberately chooses that life for themselves. It's soul destroying for the normal among us to go there and jump through the hoops for 50 quid a week. It's why I've come to believe that we are probably better off paying those who would deliberately choose such a lifestyle not to be a nuisance elsewhere in society.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    I'm never happy Monaco, you know me, i'm a miserable, torn face, never crack a joke type. Although Saturday was an unexpected surprise on an otherwise grim day for me on a health level.
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

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    I'm shallow. When I see a bunch of skinheads marching the streets shouting about their Englishness and how most foreigners should leave to free up jobs for people who have neither the intent nor the drive to find work, I just think Nazis.
     
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  11. stopmeandslapme

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    MM and others, yes I do like to play the Alf Garnett character sometimes especially when I've had a few and I've nothing better to do.

    I would like to see the workshy have that lifestyle option taken away, I think that and the revolving door on our so called borders are ruining this country not that there's much left to ruin. If that makes me look like a BNP supporter fair enough, I'm not. I dispair about the state of England, it is run down and populated by people who couldn't give a **** about anyone or anything. When I go abroad, people are pleasant, respectful.

    As for signing on, when I was out of work I couldn't face trying to justify myself to the dole office for a poxy 60 odd quid a week, luckily I had some money in the bank. They probably wouldn't have given me anbything for that reason anyway...
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

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    But people who couldn't give a **** about anyone or anything are not necesarilly immigrants, that's the problem. The lazy and feckless are more than likely good old British scum rather than some foreigner.
     
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  13. stopmeandslapme

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    I know. Most foreigners are preferable to us British, it's just that we seem to let in quite a few dodgy ones too.
     
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  14. DevAdvocate

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    One or three turds will alway slip through the toilet tissue we have as a check on immigrants, it's a risk we have to take I suppose.
     
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  15. stopmeandslapme

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    I guess so, only the BNP would do anything about it but they'd end up exterminating "undesirables" so will never get anyone voting for them.
     
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  16. LuxWFC

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    I think you need to look at it another way.

    There's no shame in £50 quid a week, it's your right like anybodies else's, when you do work you pay taxes so there's reason enough.

    Maybe it's just because I'm young with little experience and apart from knowing it could take a long time to get a job, I'd just like the money and sod pride if it's going to cost me £50 a week :emoticon-0110-tongu
     
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  17. stopmeandslapme

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    Thing is when I was looking for work, that £60 odd quid would've just about paid for me fags. Who was paying for the drink and as for the £600 odd per month mortgage? The £300 per month bills? Putting petrol in the motor to attend interviews?

    My thoughts were "I need a job and I need one now".
     
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  18. DevAdvocate

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    Exactly. People who cannot find work are not looking hard enough or are not desperate enough.
     
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  19. LuxWFC

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    Besides, the point of JSA isn't to offput getting a job...it's to support you whilst you get a job. All you have to do is carry on trying to get a job, and once a fortnight spend 1 hour of your life to sign on the dotted line and pick up £60. Sure, it won't pay the mortgage.....but it's £60 more then you'd have otherwise.

    It depends on the circumstances. There are jobs to be had, true....but for most jobs there's usually 20-200 people applying........you could be as desperate as can be and not manage to get a job.
     
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  20. Hugh Briss

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    Whilst your probably right about coughing up for the ****-kickers, it isn't any less infuriating <grr>...
     
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