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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by QPAAAAAGH, May 13, 2013.

  1. QPAAAAAGH

    QPAAAAAGH Well-Known Member

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    I was a season ticket holder in 68-69 when we were relegated from the top flight with the fewest points on record.

    I was at the Milk Cup final when our talented team completely bottled it to lesser opposition.

    I watched owners and managers try to destroy our club in the mid 90s.

    I tossed money in the buckets even after Vauxhall Motors.

    But I have never felt embarrassed about being a QPR supporter as I do today. The most expensive squad ever assembled at Loftus Road ends its season without a fight or even any recognition of the size of its failure. And our formerly well-respected club is now an unpopular laughing stock.

    I just wanted to mark the passing of this moment with the infamy it truly deserves.
     
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  2. BrixtonR

    BrixtonR Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely seconded AAAAAGH. Totally incomprehensible. Shameful. Fans do not deserve any of this.
     
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  3. Shawswood

    Shawswood Well-Known Member

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    Can't wait for it to pass, but not sure it will anytime soon with the current players, manager and dare I say it owner. He has failed to impose his vision and his will upon the club and I'm not confident that he can, but I would really really want that to happen, and soon.
     
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  4. CroydonCaptainJack

    CroydonCaptainJack Well-Known Member

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    I have been going since 1975 and have felt worse.
    A lot of football fans I speak to still like us and feel sorry for us rather than the contempt we see on these boards from other fans.
    We have a good chairman who (by his own admitance) has made mistakes and we are about to build a brand new training facility and academy.
    Yes it is disappointing but I don't feel embarassed to be a QPR fan at all.
    Hardly the fans fault is it? Most other decent fans know that.
     
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  5. BrixtonR

    BrixtonR Well-Known Member

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    Fair points.
     
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  6. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely right as evidenced by the fact that we did NOT see the deluge of abuse we were expecting on here apart from a few minor evolutionary throwbacks who've only just climbed out of the slime! Credit to all true football fans who know that it is not our choice and certainly not our fault!
     
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  7. jeffranger

    jeffranger Well-Known Member

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    Agree AAAAGH but not embarrassed to be a fan, ashamed & shocked with watching that lot perform, at least the 68/69 side showed some guts & we were generally out played for that season.
     
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  8. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    Im not ashamed to be a Rangers fan, quite the opposite in fact. Although this seasons total failure is immense in terms of the money spent and the pre seasons expectations, we are still QPR. We still have a great set of fans (on the whole) and I believe that we have owners who care. The failure has been in the playing staff and the clubs management that let that happen.

    We will return (I hope) and the good times will be back, maybe next time we'll be able to properly celebrate promotion. In the meantime we just have to hope that Harry does have it in him. I'm praying he does, but remain unconvinced.

    On the positive front the new training ground will help us to develop the stars of the future. Im already looking forward to next season watching the Rsss on a saturday every week. And we have renewed our season tickets.
     
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  9. TheLoneRanger

    TheLoneRanger Well-Known Member

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    While I agree this season has been a disaster, and the players have failed to live up to expectations of ability and professionalism, I'm not jumping on the doom and gloom bandwagon.

    I really can't believe that so many fans are blaming fernandes! What exactly did he do wrong?

    OK, we can say now that he backed Hughes too long, but he did that for the right reasons. We all remember the joke we'd become in the championship under Briatore's tenure, and particularly the chanting from the fans saying "we want our rangers back". What did that mean? What did the fans want? Well I seem to remember universally people wanting stability, get a manager in and let him manage. Well thankfully we got warnock and he performed a footballing miracle. He turned us from a team who looked destined for relegation one season, and got us promoted the next. Now maybe here was our first chance to build a team who would survive in the premiership, but rather than bringing in younger players with desire, he chose to bring in old war horses, but he did so on the understanding that these players were to get us promoted, but that he'd be given funds to then completely overhaul the team. But this didn't happen.

    Ask yourself a question, when have you ever known a team that was in the position we were when promoted, a team with no training ground of their own, no scouts, no academy, an owner and chairman who had taken control of player acquisition, and an owner that wanted to sell the club once it was promoted but refused to sell to one of the worlds richest men who wanted to buy the club! And then sell the club for less money 3 weeks in to the new season having given the manager little or no funds to improve the team that was destined for league one little over a year previously.

    Now ask yourself, what has fernandes done wrong? Picked a manager who may not have been everyone's first choice, but did have a good pedigree, backed the manager each transfer window, raised the clubs profile, bought the land for and paid for a new state of the art academy and training facility, is in the process of buying and financing the building of a new multi purpose stadium.

    So, having asked these two question, what style of ownership would you prefer? A return to an owner (hypothetically) who sacked managers at the drop of a hat, who picked the team and gave team orders, tried to piece together a team of loans and made us a laughing stock, and who also threatened to sell the club because some fans chanted for 'their' club back. Or would you prefer an owner who has spent more money in less than two years than has been spent at the club since its inception, an owner who has admitted he's been naive and admitted to making mistakes, committed his future to the club and his determination to make the club successful.

    Which would it be?

    Of course fernandes isn't perfect, yes he can be naive, but what exactly has he done to damage the club and deserve the hate? He's been at the club for less than 2 years and has done all he can to make things work, but look at the state we were in, what more could he have done without the aid of a crystal ball??? It's all very well fans speaking at the end of the season pointing fingers, but fernandes has tried to make the right appointments and do what's best for the club, but it's early days for his ownership and it will take time to get it right. It's hard for us as fans seeing us relegated, but surely if you stop and look at our situation and remember some of our darkest days, this doesn't even come close! We will come good, but it's going to take time to do things right, and some fans need to appreciate that if they do want to see us a successful and well run club, that it will take time, might take several years and a few more managers. But we've lacked soul and a proper team for many years and trying to change it wholesale in the course of a season hasn't worked, but neither would it have worked leaving the team as it was.

    Hopefully Harry will have some success at removing some of the negative influences and get a few hard working players in, but there is no guarantee that it will work, and only time will tell if fernandes is the right man to make us successful, but you can't say he isn't at least trying to do what's best.
     
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  10. CroydonCaptainJack

    CroydonCaptainJack Well-Known Member

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    Terrific post Lone
     
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  11. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    As Harry would say Lone, thats a "top, top post". "triffic" stuff mate.
     
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  12. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Outstanding post Lone.

    Truth is I'm torn. I think Fernandes is great, though fallible. I don't like the managerial merry-go-round, commonsense says we need stability. But every time Harold opens his mouth he makes me think firstly he doesn't care and secondly, no way is he building for the future.

    In principle, stick with him, but make it crystal clear that the only acceptable outcome if we are paying a fortune for a manager like him is promotion. I reckon he'll walk in the New Year if we are lower half. I'd really prefer to go into next season with a young manager we have committed to for 3 years and take all the pressure off - objective start the build, learn the ropes, blood some youngster, stay in the division.

    PS I felt worse when Docherty didn't play Stan for months, and when Venables left for Barca. But not the overwhelming embarrassment that this mob have generated.
     
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  13. TootingExcess

    TootingExcess Well-Known Member

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    Its not as bad as the six months before we got Warnock - at least there's not rumours of TF picking the team and making subs.
     
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  14. Woodyhoopleson

    Woodyhoopleson Well-Known Member

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    Very good post TLR, very sound reasoning.
     
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  15. northlondonqpr

    northlondonqpr Active Member

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    I am annoyed not embarrassed because we have spent big money and big salaries and ended up with a bunch of tossers. The most expensive team I have seen us put together in over forty years supporting Rangers, and as I said some months back they are the worst team to have graced the Premiership. Creating a new record of games without a win, poor defense with conference league defending at times, and a totally inapt strike force.

    Even Derby who went down with hardly any points had some fighting spirit.
     
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  16. Bush Rhino

    Bush Rhino Well-Known Member

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    Milk Cup, my first visit to wembly at the age of nine. The day started with a child who believed anything was possible and the world was a magical place. It ended with a cold lesson in the facts of life, and shock which manifest itself by making me travel sick for the only time in my life.

    Dad sold the lada and we moved away from Oxford just 3 months later. Not soon enough.

    You never forget the first time QPR rips your heart out. This is only my forth time.
     
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  17. Flyer

    Flyer Well-Known Member

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    Same thing here, I was so sure we would win. Ive never had any positivity for QPR since then. Losing every final in my lifetime doesnt help that. neither does the Flyers doing exactly the same thing.

    Id rather go down like this than like Bolton did last season. 4 mins from safety and then it all blows up.
     
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  18. Bush Rhino

    Bush Rhino Well-Known Member

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    Championship winning season was a real shot in the arm, sorely needed.

    But if we're talking this years style of relegation,:emoticon-0136-giggl

    Expensive style.
     
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  19. Flyer

    Flyer Well-Known Member

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    The Warnock side is the only side I ever felt comfortable that we were going to win if leading or were going to get a goal back if losing.

    It was the never say die attitude by everyone thats sadly missing now.
     
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