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Discussion in 'Cardiff City' started by isawronnymoorescore, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. isawronnymoorescore

    isawronnymoorescore Well-Known Member

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    We are serious about bidding for young Tom Ince.
     
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  2. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    If you can get him for about the £2-3 million mark then that would be a good deal. He failed at liverpool but i put that down to being too young at the time....To pay more than £5 million for any player in the first season is asking for trouble as it will be a huge culture shock for the players and the manager in the premiership. you need a lot of luck and results to go your way just to stay out of the relegation dog fight which most of us will be in for most of the season anyway....I dont buy into this crap that we will be a top half team just because we finished 9th and if you look we got that bit of luck in the end with such a poor premiership last season.....forget about the top 6 or 7 as that will be out of our reach and that is why i am not a big fan of the way the premiership is run...The money is the only good thing for the majority of clubs if you can stay out of the bottom 3 and that is not as straight forward as you think.....I hope we both survive but its going to be a tough season....
     
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  3. Stevoldinho

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    2-3mill is stupidly low for an English player who did as well as he did last year. If he'd played that well in L1 he'd be in the 3 mill bracket. You dont buy 18 championship goal England U21 wingers for that money.

    5 mill is about spot on but it might take 7-8 (including add ons) to get him quickly. He'll be 5 mill on the final day of the window and a bigger club than us might panick buy him then. If we can get it done quickly it's worth a bit of a premium. A lump of that 8 mill fee will certainly depend on us staying up. If we do the fee wont be an issue.
     
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  4. taffthefish

    taffthefish Well-Known Member

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    I believe Liverpool off-loaded Ince due to his wage demands at the time. Rumour has it he was set for a return to Liverpool in January but Blackpool priced him out at 16 million as Liverpool have 35% of any sale.
    At 8 million I think is over the top and 5 million would be closer to the mark if we remain in the premiership and Ince has played his part.
    If it bacame a bidding war then the figures may become silly. It also begs the question why, apart from us and the swans, no other premiership team seems to have been linked with him.
     
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    a friend of mine who happens to be a millionaire (no joke) hes well connected, told me today its a done deal he has a good friend who knows the palace chairman who said they have resigned to lising him to us, it will be made official on july 1st. i think 8 mil sounds a lot but put it in context and as premier fees go its not to high, the lad has raw talent, is gifted going forward and personally i think hes nowhere near as good as his dad at the momet but with the right guidance could be in a more attacking role.
     
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  6. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    He played his season for Blackpool and it does not matter how good he was for them the premiership is a different cuttle of fish...£2-3 million is very generous for a player who never made the grade last time.....Anymore then its a massive gamble for a championship half decent player....
     
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    they will probably be looking closer to £15m than £5m, they will look at zaha and say start the bidding at that level.

    he's english which means he's worth much more than a foreign player of the same ability. i think £8m is a fair price, but i cant see blackpool selling for a reasonable price - they dont need to - there are plenty of teams in the PL with more money than sense. shane long £7m, rodriguez £7m, he is better than both of those.
     
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    I reckon: £4 million now, +£2 million next season, +£2 million if we stay up and maybe a little extra on appearance or maybe an England cap. Transfers are never straight forward these days.
     
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    arwr like i said your in dreamland if you think blackpool will sell for that. they will expect to hit the jackpot once the clubs with more money than sense get involved.
     
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    Dai - "the premiership is a different cuttle of fish".......<laugh><laugh><laugh> - you're always welcome here mate. <ok>
     
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    Dai!
    The lad is worth £6m easily.

    What do you think of your new kit fella? Tribute to Fulham?
     
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  12. Arwr

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    Swamp - To be honest I don't want us spending that kind of money on him. I'm sure we can get a better winger from Spain for half the price.
     
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  13. swanseaandproud

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    Now that is more sensible that splashing big money in the hope he can perform to a premiership standard. we made mistakes on a couple of our signings, Im not saying dont buy him because im sure we would if the price was right. we wont entertain him for the price blackpool want as its to much of a gamble, If he is a flop then the chances of you getting your money back are slim...
     
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    Dai - all player purchases are a gamble - sometimes you win like you lot with Michu, but other times you lose. I suppose it's all about the scale of the "bet" any club is prepared to make. Stupidly splashing money around up front is definitely not the answer, but there are payment methods that can mitigate the risk long term.

    I remember a young Fran Jeffers going to Arsenal from Everton about 10 years ago. He was about the same age as Tom Ince at the time, and Wenger (I think) forked out something close to £10M up front.

    The rest is history.
     
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    Ssn reporting we've had a bid accepted.
     
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    Outside the top 6 in the Prem is anyones ballgame as you have proved , we will sign more quality players as in Malkie we trust
     
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