I have read a lot of threads about people worrying about the lack of signings and criticising short and congerton for not doing their jobs properly. What people need to realise is that congerton has said all along that at Sunderland him and short want to build a young english team obviously their will be one or two exceptions but what this means is that long gone are the days of keane, Bruce and di canio where we spend millions on average players and singing lots of players, because short has now realised what is the point in spending millions of his own money on an average player when all that happens is we finish in the lower table. He has had a meeting with congerton and poyet and told them how things are going to be run from now on and basically said if any potential signings from overseas come here demanding thousands a week you must tell them not to bother signing because it isn't going to happen. Instead we are going to use our academy because mr short realises that if you've got an academy you might as well use it because it's cheaper than the alternative. The two winners this season in terms of transfers will be Sunderland and Southampton because they have managed to pay off a lot off the debt and get a lot of over paid players off their books saving millions.
Completely disagree , don't believe that Short has took that stance at all. If you run a successful academy those that are good enough will progress through the system. Sunderland will continue to buy players that they deem , value for money, a certain quality, what the team /manager need etc..
And reference Southampton they haven't paid off a bunch of " over paid" players they have sold for millions players they have nurtured over the years. They are selling players brought through the academy for large sums of money not to build a team as you suggest.
I'm sorry but they have and that's because everybody knows that english players are over priced so they've raked in 150 million they've done the best business in the transfer window so far. They could buy a couple of players for less than the price of the ones they sold who are far better. They have the same problem as us though because southampton is a horrible area so nobody wants to move there.
not really, there are loads of places near southampton on the south coast that is hell of alot more attractive than up here, there players werent over paid, over valued in the prices they went for but its not about how much a player is worth on his ability anymore, its all about the resolve to keep the player and ask for more and if the club really wants that player they will pay!
No because hes been told what the score is when he signed his contract and how transfers will be handled and he agrred to it and signed the deal. Everybody on this board seems to believe what they read in the papers dont you think its funny how the players we've signed have never been mentioned in the press. Its because all of the players mentioned in the press are either made up or someone has mentioned that were interested and according to the press that means hes going to sign.
I don't get the problem, The club made their transfer policy public to us, they warned us deals could take time but we won't be rushed into overspending or signing the wrong man. The very nature of our transfer policy demands it be judged when the window closes and not until. I get why people are nervous, we all are, some of the humour bouncing about has helped, but in amongst it we've got people panicking, making knee jerk judgements with a month of the window still to go, putting down our DOF in the process. If this window goes well a lot of folk will not only look silly, but come across as impatient saboteurs dying to hang somebody out at the very first opportunity. A lot of folk need to grow up, let Congerton do his job, and have the ****ing common courteous to put the ****ing pitchforks away until the window shuts. This isn't a dig at the lads on here, believe me, more of an general web thing, if you haven't looked this board is incredibly calm compared to the dozens upon dozens of ****ing idiots on twitter. That site is full of ****ing cranks.
Who is to say the clubs policy didn't change? Especially on the back of how the easosn panned out. If that was deemed a successful season, then you don't fix what ain't broke. If it was deemed a failure it would be suicidal to continue the same way.
But surely our plan B is Di Fanti's plan A? And I don't seen average players flying in left right and centre. I still think we're very much on plan A mesel
I don't think we have a plan or had one for a while. Just going from plan to another when its been shown to not work.
I don't understand fella. So we're criticised for not having a plan, or if we do have a plan it just going from one plan to another?
No long term plan like say Swansea. Hiring managers on the basis of how the club was, evolution rather than revolution. Keane came in and had money to burn. As did Bruce. Then O'Neil. And then pdc. Now poyet. All had different ideas on recruitment and as result style of play. When each left it has been a case of picking up the pieces and starting again as opposesed to recruiting to a specific philosophy. Poyet and Cong might be the start of something like that, but ultimately who knows.
I think we are doing are best to sign players and the players we are after don't want to be involved in a relegation battle, which means we are chasing better class players who can take us into top 10 and a good cup run, I also think Borini may well yet sign for us. Gus has spoken to him about a coming to Sunderland.
Ah gottcha. But even those long term plans had a beginning. The DoF set up, Gus getting every tier to play the same way. Both signs that we're at least trying to put long term plans in place. It's tougher for us because we're doing it from within the Premier League trying to balance building for the future while providing for the present. Time will tell like you say on weather it works or not, I'm willing to give it a chance and wait and see, some people can't even wait till the end of this transfer window.