Good point and the very reason that the FA have to stand up and say once and for all NO and thats the end. I see it as the first step down the road to franchise football, like american football. Some american football clubs have moved hundreds of miles to a bigger or better stadium. Nightmare scenario, Leeds decline continues and they go bust. a big stadium going free, why don't the Tigers move there ? and who will follow the team. Some Leeds fans would protest but the majority would welcome the chance to see premier league football in their city.
Then ignore them, treat it with contempt and state your fairly held view. You might of noticed, it is the way of these forums; sad, but true. I agree with you, on this. The booing was very specifically aimed at the 19:04 chanters, no one else and at no other time. In my opinion it was crass to have to witness it, but I can understand why they did it and, when I say they, it was a significant number from all sides of the stadium. They had as much right to boo the chant as the chanters had to make their point - what everyone now needs to determine is whether it is good or beneficial to their arguments to do so - whether chanter or booer. As this was the first such occurrence of booing, I am guessing that it was reluctant, but once started, many joined the spontaneous moment - they vented their frustration with the situation. But which situation? is it the Allam lies and name-change campaign? Clearly not the driver, IMO. Is it the on-going CTWD campaign? Yes, it probably is, IMO. To be fair, I do not believe the CTWD campaign group has done anything other than issue a statement (in response to Allam's ridiculous and insulting interview), but many (non-CTWD members and maybe some members) now want to move on, away from the campaign and it's statements and opinions. Some ask the question whether or not there is a purpose, as many say, quite emphatically, that the name-change cannot and will not happen; so why stoke the owners mischievous burners, why give his ego fodder, why not stay quiet and let process follow it's rightful course - if, that is, if the result of his application is so certain to be a no-change verdict. CTWD have some responsibility in all of this, just as we all do, but it wrong to label them as holding the opinions, endorsing the posts and/or actions of the moronic element (here and elsewhere), or to believe they are not entitled to express their view - something they have always done peacefully and with measured dignity. Now the booing has started, the nature of the beast would indicate louder CTWD chants and louder booing - Allam has passed his character on to some of his customers. He, Mr Allam, is a liar and a manipulator; he pays no respect to his customers and he has certainly done me no favours, but he has tripled my clubs debt to a very worrying level and turned us into a laughing stock when we should be enjoying success. I do believe that any focus on CTWD is now redundant, all focus should now be on ALLAM OUT!
Changing the name helps what ?? I have lived in Asia for over 10 years and never seen a City shirt yet in all my extensive travels in the region !!! So just because we change our name to Tigers, we have a whole new market to tap into ?? Bullshit !! Asian fans are bigger glory hunters than the UK kind, so its not going to happen unless we get into the top 4 every year. We are selling success on the pitch......not cans of Coke !! The guy still thinks our name is Hull City Tigers and he wants to shorten it for better branding........why doesn't someone suggest Hull City to him, its got quite a nice ring to it
Take this a bit further, We've lost our identity, moved out of the city boundary, and the businessmen still aren't getting the required return on their investment. Worrying times, worrying times indeed, when a badly run team not 60 miles away get liquidated. Oh that'd never happen. No one would ever move a club that far away. Anyone remember the crazy gang? No it's not board members
Anyone else think that this their exit strategy ? FA won't change the name, that arguments lost. They can't sustain the spending. Have to get out. Out of spite they've now divided the supporters.
I think they have already said that; they will sell before the decision, if possible and after the decision if it is no. Then again, he could be telling lies, again.
So why did you change your username? Presumably you're a **** and will always be a ****. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
Just because you think that does not make it fact. Have you any evidence that this is his aim? He wanted to buy the KC and develop it. The suggestion of a move was only to facilitate a new larger stadium if he couldn't get the KC. Many teams move to out of town stadia. Land is cheaper, access is better, parking is better etc. Did you kick up this fuss when we moved from Fer Ark? Was that all part of a conspiracy as well?
And where is the one good reason to change our name? Apart from pleasing the whim of a senile old man?
Has it not occured to you that by offering the council £0 for a facility that cost £36m to build would get a negative response and then he could use this as an argument to move the club out of the city? And no I didnt kick up a fuss when we moved to the KC, because we were moving within the city of Hull to a new stadium. I dont quite see your point. If our owner didnt want to change our name and wanted to move to a new, bigger stadium in Hull I would have no complaints whatsoever.
If the boo-boys tried to be positive in their approach then instead of booing they should start their own 'rival' chants, (eg "Tigers till I die"). This might prompt the CTWD chant to be sung even more vociferously in response and then the pro-name changers could ratchet up their volume in counter-response. Thus creating an exceptionally raucous atmosphere where both camps inspire the team on. In this scenario everyone holds their own opinion and still gets behind the team. I'm bloody deluded if I ever think such a thing might happen though.
It's funny that those pro-name change haven't offered any substance to support their claims other than "why not?" Do you people just sit back and take everything? Stand up for what you believe in, why let someone rich do something just because they're rich. -- In a rather potentially childish comparison (albeit not as bad as comparing us to a brand of sweet!): If I saved you from drowning and/or saved you from bankruptcy does your gratitude mean I get to have a go on your wife? What's that? No? But I saved your life!!
And therein lies the problem, because they clearly DON'T believe in anything beyond the short termism and instant gratification of the Premier League. They probably also think the X-Factor is a good way to see new musical talent emerging and alternate between voting Labour and Tory, depending on which party is going to benefit them the most. They know the price of everything but the value of nothing, have no soul and no spine. I wish they'd **** off and support Liverpool.
