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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by PLT, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    There's far too many red cards in the PL, many of them very harsh. I haven't checked stats but based on our games in the championship there seemed to be a lot less than there is in the PL. Konchesky's today is just ridiculous, especially compared to what Hutton did in the same incident.

    In the PL it seems like refs are giving reds wherever there is doubt, they do tye opposite in the championship. Is it silly of me to wonder whether refs in the PL are told to give more red cards so there's more drama and 'excitement'?
     
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  2. lewisc29

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    I feel there is a lot of unnecessary pressure on refs to follow each rule to the letter. The ref should take into account the situation and use a little common sense. As for today, if it was a red card, it should have been two red cards. In reality, it was only handbags and should have been two yellows.
     
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  3. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    I found that decision completely baffling. Hutton was the only one who did anything remotely violent, and Konchesky seemed to get a red for someone else's reaction. Bizarre.
     
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    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    The Swansea red card was a mistake but the officials most likely couldn't have seen the hand ball.

    I think there should be more penalties though for holding in the box.
     
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  5. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    I think Pawson was trying to even the game up and make Leicester more competitive by sending Konchesky off.

    Where the flipping eck was he for that second goal?
     
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    Konchesky did the foul and then acted nasty standing over Hutton and insulting him (I assume). There was then the getting in the others face by both of them. I thought Hutton pushing him away was reasonable as the stand off was stupid. I think the ref was right with the cards.
     
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    From what I can tell Red Cards are slightly down the last handful of years. Lets just use the years I have stats for. Our average total red cards is 57.7 so lets just call it 58. This season from what I can find there have been 26 red cards. At that pace that would put us at 66 red cards or an increase of about 14%. The net said that the average throughout the premier leagues history has been 60 which means that since the 2008-09 Season the total per year has been driving the average down. It would be concerning that this season is looking to be up significantly and be the highest since at least the 2006-07 season.

    2007-2008 60
    2008-2009 64
    2009-2010 57
    2010-2011 56
    2011-2012 58
    2012-2013 52
    2013-2014 57

    Of course someone could check my math or my totals as I am a little drunk and who knows if I made a mistake in there.

    Uh, the total so far is clearly not high enough that the total for the end of the season couldn't be at or below average as even at 26 cards the total for the year at this point if it was an average year would only be 23.68.
     
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  8. roaring tiger

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    There has been 5 in 9 games this weekend
     
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    I agree.

    Seems like they're in most games, and of course a harsh red in a tight game completely ruins everything as a fair contest.
     
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    PLT Well-Known Member

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    The Swansea one shouldn't have been a red for several reasons. The handball was one thing but on top of that the attacker actually ran into the Fabianski who tried to out of any collision, and as Monk pointed out it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity cos he still had the chance and missed.

    You see too many goalies being sent off now for that kind of thing. It's become something for a striker to aim for when he's running clear but not central enough to score.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    I don't think Fabianski can really complain, he took the player out without getting anywhere near the ball.

    The Konchesky one was just bizarre.
     
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  12. BillyBobBallbag

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    Taylor should have been sent off on his first yellow imo
     
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    Vardy could also have got a straight red.
     
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  14. Oregon Tiger

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    That's the 2nd time West Ham have benefited from this kind of incident, remember McGregor last season? His red card was later rescinded but he still ended up injured and we lost from the resultant penalty after the officials missed the handball.
     
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    The ref can only make a decision on what he sees, sometimes influenced by his linesman, maybe the 4th official should review incidents on the tv, would take less than a minute with todays technology.
     
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