Off Topic The "Discuss Anything Else" Thread

Turkey is not safe? I lived there from 1994-2001 and is safe and will be for Syrians, there are plenty of them and Lebanese living there. I lived in Kenya from 2006-2012 and I have seen first hand the Somalis and Eritreans can live there without problems. They get no handouts apart from some off the UN, so they want to go to UK/Europe for a free ride.

 

your'e obviously not kurdish !- as for the free ridwe that you call it, thats a tired cliche --most people want to work and provide for their families-apart from the idle rich who dont have to and a few unemployable types , the vast majority do- the germans are taking 6oo,ooo thus year !!! --those who show initiative should be welcomed as they would be an asset to any economy --send some jeremy kylers the other way !!

 

I am British. It is not a tired cliche as you put it but it is fact, the figures prove it. As soon as am immigrant from the EU or an asylum seeker arrives in UK and registers they are entitled to benefits. British people are being denied the very same benefits. My bets friend is a welfare rights officer with the local council and i can provide as much evidence of this as you wish.
Also a huge number enter below minimum wage jobs or black market jobs when they get here. Another friend of mine runs a chain of restaurants and will not employ British people as he can get immigrants to work for £3 an hour and it is legal. This is endemic across the UK now.
Only skilled migrants are of benefit to the UK and they are a small number.
Why do you think there is a shortage of housing, school places, the NHS is falling to bits? The country simply can't handle the numbers and cant catch up if it tried.
It is a simple cost and numbers game and no party would get a political mandate for immigration on this scale either.

 

Whilst this thread is ‘off topic’, it now appears to have gone totally off that too. It is supposed to be about the Eurozone, of which the UK (thankfully) is not a member. As the migrant crisis extends well beyond the Eurozone and is not a Eurozone-specific matter, it is not an issue for this thread.

I think I can speak for most members of this Forum when I say that we have no problem with the plight of genuine refugees. Certainly here in Britain we have historically helped genuine refugees and will continue to do so.

A quick look at the statistics with regard to Syria will tell anyone that the vast majority of the people fleeing the civil war and the Islamic State invasion of Syria have crossed the borders to neighbouring states like Jordan and stayed there. I am not about to start a debate about why the ‘others’ have chosen a much more dangerous route (usually trafficked) to the prosperous regions of Europe but the evidence suggests that they do not want to stay in Eastern Europe’s impoverished states.

There is nothing NIMBY about those of us who think that the EU should be sticking to its own rules regarding refugees. In theory, refugees should be seeking asylum in the first country that they enter. Whilst I personally think that the vast majority of migrants entering Europe from Libya into Italy and Greece are economic migrants (not refugees), they should be applying to those two countries. Instead what is happening (thanks to the Schengen Agreement) is that they are being processed and allowed to travel on towards (principally) Germany and the UK. It seems perfectly obvious to me that this causes unrest because that creates a drain on resources away from indigenous claimants.

 

Brendan Foster said: “Mo is the greatest sportsman that Britain has ever had.”

Nicely worded, Brendan. You avoided saying that he was British. Like Kevin Pietersen, Greg Rusedski and Zola Budd before him, he was not born in Croydon, Tower Hamlets, Liverpool, Sunderland or Tunbridge Wells.

I am not sure that you are right though...

 

Probably not the best, but had huge respect for Sir Michael Redgrave. One hell of an athlete.

 

It is a tad unfair to compare a lad whose parents moved from Somalia when he was a child to the likes of Budd, Rusedski and Pietersen who made the choice themselves.

 

Erm, I'm missing something here, I thought he was a thespian?

Ah, now I've woken-up, you must mean the rower, Sir Steve...............?

 

You've not seen big Mick in a boat???

Apologies, talk about stupid.

 

Ah yes, just watched him going off from the Werribee South Boat Ramp. He really catches some whoppers!

 

We have a Werribee here in Oz. When I'm forced to travel to Victoria, I like to stay there instead of downtown Melbourne. It's a nice quiet place that suits an old fart. (I'm the old fart, the wife is a lovely lady.)

 

I think for Farah to get into the picture of greatest sportsman to represent Britain, he would need to win the double at the Olympics again next year, and break some world records.

Even then though with the doubts about wether he's cheating or not, I doubt he'll ever get the full respect he may or may not deserve.

I think the British public don't respect him as much as they would an actual athlete from the UK, hence the fact he was never in the reckoning for Sports personality of the year behind the likes of Ennis and Wiggins, despite winning 2 track Gold Medals at the Olympics.

A double track gold medalist at the Olympics should walk the award, just like Kelly Holmes did

 

That's the Werribee I was talking about, don't know it of course, just saw it on a YouTube video. As for "I'm the old fart, the wife is a lovely lady", that sounds just like me........

 

Along with the politicians of the EU, I just don't know the answer to this migrant problem. It is out of control. Well, at least I'm in good company, I think.

 

Some companies really know how to survive. Suzuki and VW have been involved in a squabble of the latter's 19.9% holding in the former named. After a court ordered that VW must sell it's shares, Suzuki said it will be the buyer. After acquiring the stake in Jan 2010 for $1.9 billion, it's expected that the sell off price will be close to last Friday's closing price, which would put the value at $3.8 billion.

Takaki Nakanishi, chief executive of Nakanishi Research Institute, which specializes in the automotive industry, has said the Suzuki will have no problems with the exchange, as it had, as of last March, cash reserves of $8.25 billion. Now that's how the big boys play.

 

Spot on I think. At least you're being honest though, unlike the politicians who've got no idea either but pretend they do.

 

Blaming the poor and destitute is an old Tory con -there has been an increased housing problem ever since the 'sell off ' of council housing in the Thatcher three card trick -we are now reaping the absurd housing policy of the last thirty years -economic distortion, most people can't afford to rent or buy!

 

Nobody is blaming anyone bar the Gov. There would be no housing crisis if Labour controlled the numbers coming into UK. Nothing to do with the Tories (though they are not reversing immigration) but all to do with Labour wanting to import voters. Immigration is a pure numbers game and the numbers are far far too high.

 

The concept of the EU comes into question again. Are we nations or a collection of countries.