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Off Topic Impact of Brexit on Football

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  1. General Melchett

    General Melchett Well-Known Member

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    I am a scientist working as an R&D project leader in a subsiduary of a french company who might just pull the R&D resources back to France. I'm a bit like a Turkey voting for Xmas in that respect, but there are other jobs and I think it is more fundamentaly important that we have more control as a country over our future than the EU will ever allow.

    Bah!
     
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    Bang ! There goes the vision - I thought you were a real General in the British Army <whistle>
     
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  3. NORKIE

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    General bor, sorry to hear of your predicament, re French company. Never fails to puzzle me how the rest of the world manage to exist not being in the EU. Even our Channel Islands had the sense not to join.
     
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  4. General Melchett

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    Britain is currently proping up the profits of the EU part of our business! Europes economy is equally likely to drag us down in or out of the whole mess! I would actually like to move back to the promisedland but am in progress on my 6sigma qualification project. After that we'll see.

    Bah!
     
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  5. NORKIE

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    General bor, there are five applicants wanting to join the EU. Turkey and four small Balkan states. They are not wanting to join for what they can contribute but for what they can get out. If they are successful would mean either our contributions increasing or the total amount of EU funds being shared among all member states which would mean us getting less back. Either way we cannot win.
     
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  6. General Melchett

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    They kicked me out after the 27th big push was anounced, I was to go over the top after we ran out of other fresh faced young gooduns like Darling and Slackbladder! So I put my pants on my head and stuck pencils up my nose and convinced them i was insane!

    Baaaahhhh!
     
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  7. General Melchett

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    Agreed, but you realise by "promised land" I meant Norfolk? i might venture the odd holiday to Europe but I don't think I'd ever really want to live there. Germany at least have respectable beer and seem to have a very open door policy, so they might take me?

    Bah!
     
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  8. JKCanary

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    Im Falle von Brexit, kannst du mit mir kommen!
    :D
     
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  9. NORKIE

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    There you go General, you won't get a better invitation than that, JKC will take you but he doesn't say he will pay the fare LOL.
     
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  10. General Melchett

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    As long as he buys the beers!

    Bah!
     
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  11. carrabuh

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    What a ridiculous statement that last paragraph is.

    Do you really think that is what would be bothering them now. I'm sure they would be quite pleased to look around and compare the countries of now with then and advocate a unified Europe over dangerous ideologies gaining power.
     
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    I'm writing on phone and it hasnt pasted Norkies comment about asking the dead of their opinion
     
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  13. NORKIE

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    Carrabuh, had to find what you were referring to as there have been a lot of comments made on this subject.

    Those who vote IN should take a trip to the War Cemeteries at Bayeux and Monte Casino and ask those young men interred there if they considered the sacrifice they made was necessary considering the IN crowd want to hand over our sovereignty to Brussels.

    I take it you are referring to my remarks made a lot earlier. What exactly do you find ridiculous about that statement ? Firstly the average age of those men is 22yo, cut down in the prime of life to preserve the sovereignty of our nation, seeing that the IN faction want to hand over that sovereignty to the EU then their sacrifice was wasted.

    Just remember those servicemen gave their lives just to enable you to be free to make your ridiculous comments !!!

    NULL
     
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  14. JKCanary

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    When it comes to hyperbole and 'scaremongering', comparing (directly or indirectly) the EU to the Axis Powers is right up there.
     
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  15. JKCanary

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    I'm a bit fed up now of the Out Campaign harping on about our 'sovereignty' actually.

    This isn't the 17th century. National independence is far more abstract nowadays, and our 'sovereign power' as such is far less absolute.

    I'd rather we had less of this vague 'sovereignty', and not be impotent globally.
     
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  16. NORKIE

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    JKC bor, nice thought but it doesn't quite work that way. You yourself regret the Kingdom of East Anglia becoming part of a united England, giving up EA sovereignty.

    The Welch, Scottish and Irish like to preserve their sovereignty hence their own parliaments now. Same with the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. Why should we be any different.

    You say the OUT campaign harps about sovereignty, basically it means being in control of your own country, would you take to your neighbour telling you what you can and cannot do in your own house.

    Cameron wants us to remain in the EU so we can effect a change of policy by Brussels, unfortunately he is in a minority. If he had any commonsense he would know that is not going to happen. Politically the EU is in a mess, it doesn't know how to handle the euro or the migrant problem, you have countries protecting their own interests against the policy of the EU and imposing border controls. No action has been taken against them. We have safeguarded our interests in certain respects, with the agreement of Brussels, that alone says the EU is not up to our standards.

    Let me ask you a question JKC, it concerns sovereignty. Would you give up the Falklands to Argentina despite the islanders wishing to remain under British sovereignty ? Or would you be too fed up to bother to defend them ?

    One thing I notice we do agree on, like me you are not in favour of global companies ruling over national interests.
     
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  17. JKCanary

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    Rest assured, it's very much tongue-in-cheek when I bang on about that!


    If the islanders want to remain part of Britian, of course I'd want them to be protected from aggression. If they wanted to be independent or part of Argentina, I'd be equally willing to let them do that.
    I'm not entirely sure what that has to do with our overall sovereignty, but maybe I'm missing something.


    Indeed. Although your definition of 'national interests' may well be slightly broader than mine.
     
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  18. NORKIE

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    JKC bor, the EU has been a subject on minds ever since we decided to join the EEC way back in the 1970s, no good feeling fed up with it as it will always be an ongoing discussion. If we decide to remain in the EU it will be for the first time the electorate has made that decision and not the politicians. John Major has made his contribution to this debate not surprisingly he is for IN but then he was one of those politicians who committed us to the EU. He was better employed seeing to Mrs Currie's requirements !!!
     
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  20. JKCanary

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    That's a group of 8 independent people. Eight.

    You know what the 'cutting of red tape' is likely to be? Workers rights and safety regulations most likely.

    Basically every aspect of the arguments for Brexit centered around the 'cutting of red tape' I've heard so far strikes me as a bad idea.

    I'm now about 80/20 in favour of Remain.
     
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