2020 and January Transfers

If he's being given time, they have to provide signings so we'll see.

If they give him signings, there has to be the condition that we get fourth. There has to be that target, it can't just be based on some notion that at some point in the future it'll all click.

I don't think we can afford another year out of the CL.

I don't mean can't afford it money wise, it's the whole idea that we're dying on our arse and another year out of top flight European football just adds to that.

 

I've still no problem with him being given to season end with top four the target.

The problem I guess is if we do get top four and stick with him again!

Bottom line is, this mess is not Solskjaer's fault, he's just a stooge in the whole affair. The blame lies solely at the the Glazers feet with their idiot puppet Woodward equally as guilty.

 

A major problem is that the squad is packed with mediocre players. Any side that starts with Jones, Fred, Lingard and Perreira in it has pretty much lost before kick off.

 

You are at a crisis point, the squad isn't great and you need someone with a long term plan who can manage a club of your size and attract the right players. It's hard to pick out the good players with the current overall performances but the young striker is good and the left back has potential. James will improve and Rashford is a very good player. There are positives but unless you get the right man in and quickly the very best players will be looking elsewhere.

 

You did a good job of finding the only 2 Brazilians in the world who can't play football.

 

We should be going for Moyes - after all he wins things, that's what he does (or so he thinks). As for the players - Jones should be struggling for game time at West Brom, Matic should be giving rides for children on Blackpool beach just like the other old donkeys, Pereira should decide what he's actually called and then **** off to Serie A and Martial needs to look at his pay-slip once in a while and start giving a ****. Moyes IN - serial winner #

 

We are past crisis point, in my opinion. Which means that our situation is far worse. When fans are not expecting the team to win, that is rock bottom.

Going forward, if we all unanimously agree that Ole is without a doubt the wrong man for the job, why are we waiting any longer to make the change? This points to the structural problems at the club. Decision making criteria at the club often defy logic, unless the man we want in the position wants to start with a new season.

As for Simeone vs Poch, their records are somewhat similar bar this season for Poch. I'm inclined toward Poch because he is already familiar with the League, speaks English and has a expansive approach to games. And most obvious one, he's available. I'd go with Allegri before Simeone if we think we can engineer our way toward challenging again.

 

I love this site, such a broad concensus that Ole is not up to the job and should be let go. We need a man with a "long term plan" to take us forward it seems.

Lets take a look at what Ole has done and things he has said.

He came into the club when the team was suffering from many ailments, most players were not good enough, several had totally lost interest after the last two managers, a couple past their prime and at least 4 were total trouble causers.

So, Ole got us to the end of the season and managed a couple of decent results on the way considering the squad and it's mental state and paucity of good players.,
Over the summer break he recruited three decent players, got rid of two of the trouble makers and shipped some **** out on loan
This season he is blooding young players that have been sat in the reserves for quite a while and brought a couple that have been out on loan back to the club, his mantra from day one upto this date has been "there is no quick fix", he has also stated there is no point buying players who don't fit the profile of the team he want's to build (Klopp gets called a genius for that kind of thinking).

We are now demanding a new manager with a long term plan to turn things around, how "long term" will we give him, one transfer window and a four months?

I am just like anyone else on here, i would love us to be on a level with City, Liverpool or even Leicester but the fact is "long term plans" don't work like that,they have to have a little time to build and usually two or three transfer windows to get the type of players that fit the plan.

 

He needs to change his coaching team then. He needs some innovation, Phelan and Carrick et al aren't providing that.

The football is good when it works but is one dimensional, and doesn't work too often.

He also needs a defensive coach and a goalkeeping coach.

 

Are they ****! Simeone has won things.

Simeone has led them to two Europa League titles, one Copa del Rey, one Spanish Super Cup, one La Liga title and two European Super Cups

 

No thread on the League Cup? You're in the semi-final, FFS: or were

 

It's a different point of view but the transfer part is the worry, you'd think that a club like yours would have many players scouted and shortlisted who are the type of players needed at the club and it's clear you need those players now so why the wait?

 

Gossip only but you are linked to Donny van de Beek, great player at the right age and available from Ajax at a reasonable fee.

 

Can he control a football with one touch and then pass it five yards so it finds itself at the feet of someone wearing the same colour shirt as him? If so there are at least two vacancies in the team that he could fill.

 

Simeone is seen here as rather one-dimensional in his style of play. You have to remember that La Liga has more in common with the top tier of Scottish football rather than the PL. Take out the top four teams and the rest of the teams are quite poor and the football can be quite pedestrian. It has been said in the sports press here that Simeone is still at AM because none of the other top sides want him.

 

I think that's nonsense, all of it. You don't win things like that in what is a good league a million miles away from the standard of the SPL and not be considered a top manager. Anyway I hope you don't get him and get the very one dimensional Poch.

 

So has Mourinho and LvG. We have tried and tested that and it didn't work. We first need someone that will fit the culture of the club, be resourceful and ultimately deliver the goods. There are no guarantees here regardless who comes in. However, what we need are the qualities to get the club on sustainable path to maintain success and get us playing with some fricken flare again.

 

It has to be Allegri over Poch. Allegri dragged Juve back to the top from mid-table - he's had the fans on his back, he knows what it takes to revive a great side - Poch (of whom I was a great advocate some time ago) hasn't got that experience.

 

One old manager past his best and one on a downward spiral who's style of football never suited you.

In Simeone you're getting someone on the up who's done all he can at AM. Style of football is a based on a strong defensive style but with and aggressive approach all over the pitch and certainly not all negative, they have a good balance.

You lot would be crazy not to at least see if he's interested in the job. Nothing wrong with Allegri though, he's a top manager. Those still thinking Poch are a bit insane he's a very limited manager.

 

That bias on defence isn't the United way, plus Simeone would only have a slight chance of success in the PL if he brought the entire AM team with him. Have a look at last night's AM game with Barca.