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A #chelseareject called Mohamed Salah !

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  1. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Chelsea's flop to Liverpool hero<peacedove>
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    Eventually Liverpool got him, people say every disappointment is a blessing, in the case of Salah blessing
    indeed.. Maybe, if Liverpool had him instead of Chelsea, this opportunity of having him now might not arise.
    Mohamed Salah has improved dramatically since the time he was Chelsea.
     
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    Needs to improve his finishing, but he still has a fair few goals anyway. He gets in great positions and actually follows a shot in and gambles on crosses.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

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    In the end If LFC had paid 11 mil not 9 mil we would have had him under rogers and perhaps achieved a little more than we have done over last years.

    LFC poor business sense has in effect cost us 23 mil here. (34-11) really....
     
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    I don't remember the details but suspect that Chelsea would have just gone ahead and paid 12 mil. Think they bought him just to stop us getting him.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

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    We negotiated for 2 full months and never actually bid. We were trying to get him for 9mil max and they has said 11. The player himself spoke on it and said he wanted to join us but we never actually made a bid so he had no decision to make.

    We were DESPERATE as fans IMO all that window for a player and we could have had a go on jan 1 for 11mil and just didn't. It is basically a tale of continued woe.
     
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    Mr Beej Well-Known Member

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    Not the first time I don't think we've missed out by trying to be too clever. Obviously don't want to overpay for players but sometimes you just have to pay the going rate.
     
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    But it’s good that we didn’t get him and he developed elsewhere - I doubt he would have been given the time or support Here.

    In this market, he’s a bargain.
     
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  8. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Agree.

    If we had got him back then we may have thought not going to make it and sold him.

    The fact he has gone and proven himself could for a change lol have worked in our favour.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Surely all you are saying is our club is **** at developing players?

    We sacked buck Rogers with firmino and couti no in place... surely we could add salah to that...no? Klopp takes over but actually wins Europa, due to having him. Buys mane and wins league last year :)

    It's as likely a scenario as we turn him to **** just cos Mourinho never gave him a game
     
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  10. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Why would I be saying that our resident wum?

    Players sometimes have to move to prove they are worth a gamble. Chelsea never wanted him so had no intention of developing him.

    Players have been targeted by clubs all the time who have to move to prove themselves.

    Also we don't know if Rodgers was allowed to buy him as above him could have said no. Ie no bid for him.

    So how could we have given him a chance?
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Now you are making it chicken and egg.

    The ORIGINAL point I made was we ****ed around trying to get him for 9mil when Basel wanted 11 and Chelsea bought him. Had we paid the going rate we would not have needed to spend 34. 23mil extra.

    Again... That's the point. I'm being told oh he would have been **** and we would not have developed him anyway.. which i then point out is obviously bollox cos players like coutinho, firmino et al did fine esp once klopp came.
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    But would he have still have been our player by then or sold?
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Who else got sold like....

    Sterling wanted to go.
    Markovic we can't get shut of
    Ibe?
    Alberto?
    Balotelli?
    Benteke in and then out?

    Seriously just who do you think Rogers would have sold him to keep?

    AND I refer you to klopp own comments on buying the guy... yet another guy he had his eye on from dortmund days


    I submit that you've reached the end of the road on this defence of off stupidly failing to buy that January over a lousy 2mil.
     
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  14. Milk not bear jizz

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    A lot of players do. I think they sign so much quality potential youth they don't have the ability to really get the best out of them... Not enough trainers to cut the diamond from the rough.
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Not what I said though was it ffs.

    You want to be our lame ass resident wum who thinks he knows it all carry on.

    Why would he still be our player if Rodgers brought him when we gave others limited chances?

    He needed time to prove himself by moving elsewhere.

    Enlighten me! could do with a laugh.
     
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    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Nail on the head. Wasteful finishing from good locations. Lacks good decision making as to where to place the ball.

    Makes up for it by knowing where to be and when to be there.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

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    sighhhhh,,,,

    All i'm saying is we should have bought him for 11 mil at the time.

    this was january 2013/14. Rogers loses suarez, he ends up with balotelli and markovic etc. Just perhaps the lad would have no needed said chance elsewhere and just maybe we'd not have thrown 20mil down the pan on markovic to boot... just maybe when we ended up playing 343 in 3014/15 with sterling as a false 9 as we had nobody that he could have been good.

    All you know is mourinho treated him like rogers treated markovic cos he wasn't HIS player. Cheslea have long held form for buying and selling players irrespective of managers wishes and mourinho put 3 or 4 players in the same boat as salah in his second time at Chelsea. the question you ought to be putting forth is if rogers wanted salah or was it the "committee". I would say in that case that given the player was not bought that it could be the case rogers wanted him and committee puleed the same **** it did with van dijk (he's not for you brendan)


    Seems to me you just want to argue over the fact we could have had him for less than half the fee.
     
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  18. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Oh ffs!

    I have already said Chelsea just brought players to stop others buying them.

    I agreed Chelsea didn't develop them as they didn't really want them.

    Again!!!!! Why would Rodgers buying him be any diferent? when he gave others no time to develop.

    Well?

    Or did he, as I said; need to move elsewhere and prove himself?

    Fee is irrelevant, if not ready lol.
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

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    ok.... well as i said there given LFC wouldn't buy him obviously he was a rogers pick :)

    you are making a massive leap that he'd not be given any chance at LFC thats all.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

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    any why are we annoying each other? you are annyoing me as much as I am annoying you so why not just agree I'm not trying to wind anyone up and neither are you and leave it at that.
     
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