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  1. Anal Frank Fingers

    Anal Frank Fingers Well-Known Member

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    Iron and Vitamin B12 deficiency as a reason to be not vegetarian has been doing the rounds since at least the mid 80s. It was easyish to get then too.

    As far as the crap ingredients in processed foods is concerned, the obvious answer is not to buy it. It takes 5 minutes to knock out a mushroom burger that tastes 10 times better than the processed **** on the shelves.

    I never really got the point of recreating meat tastes either. Having said that, I was a big fan of Protoveg Sosmix in the 80s when it was pretty much the only edible fake fodder on the shelves. Well, there was TVP but I'm pretty sure that was collected from the bottom of gerbil cages.
     
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  2. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I’m not a fan but it’s a good read.


    Billy Connolly: ‘It might be lovely on the other side’
    Tom Lamont
    A fostered-off schoolboy going nowhere fast, turned apprentice welder on the Clyde. A welder turned regionally popular musician. A musician turned nationally popular comic. A comic turned Hollywood actor and an actor turned New York artist, then a retiree who’s recently been muttering his memoirs into a recording device in the Florida Keys… Billy Connollyhas already been through one or two big transitions in his life. Perhaps it’s no surprise that the 78-year-old, who has been ill with Parkinson’s for some time, can face up to the next transition (the last one) with such a playful disposition. If he ever finds himself brooding on death, Connolly confesses, when we chat one autumn morning, he will shake along his wrist a little bracelet made out of small, plastic skulls. He wears the bracelet most days now. And in his mind, Connolly says, the skulls represent death. But (twist!) they have all been cast in bright, jolly colours. “I find that takes the scare away.”

    It has just turned 11.30am in the Keys. Connolly says that he wasn’t very long out of bed when he left the home he shares with his wife, Pamela Stephenson, and walked to a neighbouring house belonging to one of their daughters. There, in a quiet and well-lit room that he uses as an art studio, he plugged his hearing aids into a specially equipped computer and logged on to Zoom for our chat. He sits forward in an easy chair now, explaining that it will take some getting out of, this chair, when he’s done. Lots of rocking and jerking, he guesses, until he’s upright. But he’ll face that problem when he gets to it. “What works on a Monday, to get you out of a chair, doesn’t always work by Wednesday. It can be a cruel disease.”

    Connolly has long white hair that he’s tied back. The famous beard, striped with grey, has been shaped into a sort of dangling sporran over his mouth, chin and throat. He wears black circular specs and black clothes, quite a forbidding look; but his is one of those warm, confessional personalities, and quickly you feel you can ask him anything, just so long as questions come from a place of honest curiosity about the human experience. It’s something he’s very curious about himself.

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    ‘I’ve just got a feeling we don’t just turn to ****e’: Billy Connolly. Photograph: Brian Smith/The Observer
    I want to know, if he’s not scared of death, then does he resent it as a moment when the busy ride of life has to stop? Does he think about all the events and funny-anecdotes-in-the-making that will go on taking place without him, afterwards?

    Connolly chuckles softly. “I do feel that. Cheated, in a way? But it hasn’t happened yet. So how can I have been cheated? And who knows? It might be so lovely on the other side that you don’t ever think about that.”

    There’ll be another side, you think?

    “I’m sure there’s something. I’m sure there’s something.”

    Why?

    “I don’t know, in recent years, I’ve just got a feeling that there is. That we don’t just turn to ****e. Mebbe this is my refusal to accept something so mundane.”

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    Being the Big Yin: with wife Pamela Stephenson, 1985. Photograph: Steve Fenton/Shutterstock
    You mean: that after an extraordinary life, the most ordinary thing will happen to you, too?

    “Yes. That I’ll be squashed, like any other garden mite, and that’ll be the end. Well that can’t be what happens, can it?”

    At least in our conversation, Connolly does not refer to Parkinson’s by name. Instead he calls it “it”, part of a deliberate strategy, is my guess, to belittle the illness and diminish its hold over him. “I’m still quite ignorant about it,” Connolly smiles. “There are lengths I choose not to go to, in terms of information about it. And that works for me. Once, I was invited to a meeting of people that had it, in a hotel here in Florida, and I went with my son. I couldn’t wait to leave. Place was full of people who thought about it all the time. They had obviously surrendered themselves to it. I haven’t.”

    Not the Nine O’Clock News, the 1980s sketch show, when Stephenson was a regular cast member and Connolly a guest. He saw her whizzing down a studio corridor in a shopping trolley and was greatly charmed. Both were married at the time.

    After the episode was filmed they didn’t see each other again for a year. In that time Connolly separated from Iris Pressagh, his first wife and the mother of his oldest two children, Cara and Jamie. In the memoirs he blames his travelling for work, his drinking and his general wildness. He was on another long comedy tour, gigging in Brighton, when Stephenson came to see him backstage. She sat on the sink in his changing room and admitted that her marriage was over, too. They slept together that night. In the morning, when a roadie coolly walked into Connolly’s hotel room to pack his stuff (as if the fact of there being a new woman in the bed was such a common occurrence it didn’t warrant basic politeness), Stephenson challenged the men’s boorish behaviour. This would become a theme of the relationship to come.

    She was the first person to tell Connolly directly, no messing, “You’re drinking too much.” He promised her he would stop, and tried to several times. His fear of her leaving him spurred him on. Sometimes, he says, he has dreams where he’s drunk again. “I’m always on the way home, after, thinking, ‘Oh God, what will I say to Pamela? How will I explain this?’ In the dreams I think, ‘She’ll never forgive me.’ But actually I think she would forgive me.”

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    ‘Can you go fishing forever?’ Billy Connolly, now living in Key West, Florida, reflects on one of his favourite activities. Photograph: Brian Smith
    Throwing in his lot with expensive cigars instead of booze as a principal vice, Connolly had his last ever drink in December 1985. By now he and Stephenson had had the first of their three daughters, Daisy, later followed by Amy and Scarlett. When Stephenson got a job as a sketch performer on Saturday Night Live, the family moved to New York. He had long been notorious in the UK, ever since a 1970s appearance on Michael Parkinson’s talkshow, when, against orders from his own manager, Connolly told a favourite joke about burying his wife bottom-up in the garden. (“I needed somewhere to park ma bike.”) It wasn’t until he did some standup on Whoopi Goldberg’s HBO special in 1989 that he made a name for himself in the US. Soon after that he got a part in a sitcom, Head of the Class, and the family moved again to LA.

    When Stephenson became a US citizen, via green-card lottery, it was prompt enough for them to marry. They did so on a beach in Fiji, bagpipes playing, the theme from The Archers sung by a choir as Stephenson came down the aisle. There were well-known guests aplenty. Ringo Starr was almost bitten by a snake. In what sounds like a reasonably blissful marriage that followed, there were many more celeb-fest parties (either in the States or in the family’s summer-holiday pile in the Cairngorns), even as Stephenson left showbiz and retrained as a therapist.

    As for Connolly, he spent his 40s, 50s and 60s fashioning a pretty decent movie career, appearing in a Pixar movie (Brave), a Tom Cruise blockbuster (The Last Samurai), one of Peter Jackson’s Middle-earth sagas (The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies) and – best – in Mrs Brown, as the kilted boyf of a widowed Queen Victoria. Judi Dench played the Queen. The two of them used to lay £50 bets with each other, about how long scenes would take to wrap. Dench, the veteran, always won.

    The biggest surprise in his life, Connolly writes in his new book, was not that he blagged it as far as he did in Hollywood (after the Hobbit film, he recalls with hilarity, “I was a wee plastic toy in a breakfast cereal… I was even in a McDonald’s Happy Meal”), but that he became an artist in middle age, and a reasonably successful one. The family had moved to New York. His daughters were starting to leave home for college. Bored, one day, he bought some art supplies and began drawing peculiar figures. There are examples of his work on the walls of the room he’s sitting in today. Connolly cranes around, carefully, to describe them. “That’s a guy fishing with an angel. That’s a little man on stilts.” His work has collectors. It gets exhibited. “Still can’t get my head around it.”

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    Role play: with Judi Dench in Mrs Brown. Photograph: Photo 12/Alamy
    In the early 2010s, he was back in Los Angeles to make a guest appearance on Conan O’Brien’s talkshow, and walking back from one of his beloved cigar shops, when a random doctor he passed gave him a quick, blunt, street-diagnosis of Parkinson’s disease, based entirely on Connolly’s gait. It was a shock, of course. (And an unbelievable bit of cheek on the part of the doctor, I suggest.) After formal tests confirmed the diagnosis, the family moved once more, this time to Florida. “Pamela had already bought the house when she told me we were going,” Connolly says. “Off we went. The whole idea was to get me away from the slippery sidewalks. I was starting to fall.”

    He misses the shoe shops of New York. The cigar shops, too. Not so long ago, he tells me, he was searching for something in his study and he found one unsmoked cigar in a case. He’d given them up. Due to complications from his illness, the tobacco had started to make him feel dizzy and drunk: not a welcome sensation for a recovering alcoholic. But now Connolly took the stray cigar out to his decking, sat in front of the river, lit up, and tried a puff. He tried one more. “And it was brilliant. I sat there for about 10 minutes, until the wobblies came on.” Connolly stubbed out his final cigar unfinished, and threw it away.

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    Fashion statement: in a kilt in 2011. Photograph: Andrew H Walker/Getty Images
    He has lost a lot of people close to him in recent years, including his manager Steve Brown and various actor friends, including Sean Connery and Robin Williams. When his sister Florence died six years ago, Connolly tells me, he experienced an unsettling season of paranoia. “She used to beat people up at school who were picking on me. She ended up being a school teacher. When Flo died I got an irrational terror that I was gonna be picked on again. A wave would come over me, that I was unsafe, that I was exposed. Then it would go away again.” Years earlier he had been unable to visit either his father or his mother on their deathbeds, despite, in both cases, getting all the way to the hospital car park. The mixture of sadness, love, resentment and pity was always too much.

    Given that he discovered a way to write about his life that was effective, with his children taking dictation and shaping it into paragraphs, I ask if Connolly envisages writing more books. “No,” he says, “too hard, too many painful bits. And, of course, I had to explain it to my daughters, away from the book, what had gone on.” What about books on other subjects, away from his own story? “It is tempting. But my daughters have their lives to lead.” He can still draw, though. And he can fish, he says, sometimes getting out on the Florida water with his son. “Can you go fishing for ever?” he wonders. “Maybe you can.”

    Before we say goodbye, Stephenson checks in by phone from her driving errand. She wants to make sure that Connolly is all right and that he’ll be able to get back along the road to their neighbouring home once our conversation ends. It’s normally best if he has a family member around to haul him upright. In restaurants, he teases me, he is always careful to choose a table served by “some real beefy waiter, who can lift me at the end”.

    “Is everything OK, Billy?” Stephenson asks, over the phone. He throws a mischievous look my way and says to her, “This bad man’s been making me cry.”

    “Billy, will you be OK walking home afterwards?”

    “Yeah,” he sighs. “I remember how it’s done.”

    Windswept & Interesting: My Autobiography by Billy Connolly is published by Two Roads at £25. Buy a copy for £21.75 at guardianbookshop.com
     
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  3. Kempton

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    Frank is spot on about mushroom burgers. Absolutely gorgeous.

    Nigel Slater has a brilliant recipe....

    A Portabello mushroom (that's them big ones) in a breadcake of your choice (not a ****ing barm cake etc). Then just some wholegrain mustard and a bit of garlic sauce.

    Beautiful.
     
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  4. Mr Hatem

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    https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/58942834
    Watch: Glentoran keeper McCarey sees red for lashing out at team-mate Burns

    Watch: Glentoran keeper McCarey sees red for lashing out at team-mate BurnsClose

    Glentoran goalkeeper Aaron McCarey is shown a red card for lashing out at his own team-mate Bobby Burns after they conceded an equaliser in their Irish Premiership game against Coleraine.

    In a bizarre incident, the Glens keeper knocks Burns on to the ground before lifting him up by the shirt before team-mates intervene.
     
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  5. Ron Burguvdy

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  6. Mr Hatem

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    Next time I see a pride of lions I'll give 'em some B12.
     
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  7. Mr Hatem

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    Good luck with that.
     
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  9. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    Nice read Chazz, the only celeb I've ever spoken to was Billy Connolly, and strangely it was twice. Once in the eighties, he was in Langan's in London, which was partly owned by Michael Caine and secondly, at the fish counter in Tesco's in Aberdeen. On both occasions, he spoke to me first, as I wasn't presumptuous enough to speak to him first, as I was stood next to him at the Bar and then the fish counter. He was quite charming.
     
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  10. Kempton

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    Of all the people in the world I'd have loved to have met, Billy would have been No1.
     
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  11. balkan tiger

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    You could take ric with you as translator

    New day, remember folks lets be happy out there
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

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    And did he remember you from the first meeting John ?? Rude if not
     
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  14. Kempton

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    Every day is a good day :)
     
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  15. Ernie Shackleton

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    In England we run the same scheme.


    It's called 'getting on a bus'.
     
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    If you were unlucky Carl Seddon would get on it, if you were really unlucky he'd spot you. :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    See also “queuing at the chippy” round my way.
     
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  18. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

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    only in north
     
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    It obviously doesn't work on the Tube.... no one looks at each other let alone talks, unless youre Northern of course in which case if you speak, people scream as if aliens have landed...
     
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