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    Titania McGrath

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    As a proud feminist,
    it is so depressing to see that more and more women are becoming violent sexual predators.
    Quite frankly, these women are no better than men.

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    failed in the snatch
    Tokyo Olympics: Laurel Hubbard out of weightlifting after failing to register successful lift
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    At 43, Hubbard is the third oldest lifter in Olympic history
    Tokyo Olympic Games on the BBC
    Dates: 23 July-8 August Time in Tokyo: BST +8
    Coverage: Watch live on BBC TV, BBC iPlayer, BBC Red Button and online; Listen on BBC Radio 5 Live, Sports Extra and Sounds; live text and video clips on BBC Sport website and app.
    Transgender athlete Laurel Hubbard made Olympic history but failed to record a successful lift in the women's +87kg weightlifting.

    She became the first openly transgender athlete to compete at a Games in a different gender category to the one in which they were born.


    But after a failed attempt to lift 120kg and two failed efforts at 125kg in the snatch, her competition ended.

    Team GB's Emily Campbell won silver, with gold going to China's Li Wenwen.

    Campbell became the first British woman to win an Olympic weightlifting medal with her combined total of 283kg.

    China's Li lifted an Olympic record of 320kg to take the title, with American Sarah Robles claiming bronze with 282kg.

    Hubbard said: "I know that from a sporting perspective I haven't really hit the standards that I put upon myself and perhaps the standards that my country has expected of me.

    "But one of the things for which I am profoundly grateful is that the supporters in New Zealand have given me so much and have been beyond astonishing.

    "I'd like to thank the New Zealand Olympic Committee - they have supported me through what have been quite difficult times.

    "I know that my participation at these Games has not been entirely without controversy but they have been just so wonderful and I'm so grateful to them."

    Who is Laurel Hubbard?
    As a junior, Hubbard was the national record holder and was lifting a total of 300kg in domestic men's competitions before quitting in 2001 at the age of 23.

    She came out as a transgender woman in 2012 at the age of 33 before resuming her sports career.

    Since returning to competition, Hubbard has won seven international tournament gold medals.

    After suffering an elbow injury when leading the 2018 Commonwealth Games, she thought her career was over but battled back and won Pacific Games gold in 2019 and finished sixth at the Worlds.

    Now 43, she is the third oldest lifter in Olympic history.

    Her selection for the Olympics sparked debate. The New Zealand Olympics committee said Hubbard was a "really important role model" who "opens up a conversation about inclusivity", and some of her fellow competitors welcomed the move.

    But critics, including some athletes, questioned her inclusion. A key point of contention has been whether Hubbard carries an advantage having gone through male puberty. Many of the scientists and academics cannot agree on this point.

    What are the rules?
    In 2004, the IOC permitted transgender athletes to take part in the Olympics.

    Since 2015, its stipulations have stated athletes who have transitioned from male to female can compete in women's sport - without requiring surgery - as long as they have declared their gender identity is female for at least four years and kept their testosterone level below 10 nanomoles per litre for at least 12 months.

    In addition, for individual sports, the IOC allows sporting federations to set their own guidelines. World Athletics has set five nanomoles per litre as its benchmark, and it is likely others, such as the International Weightlifting Federation will adopt the same, once an ongoing IOC study is completed.

    According to NHS data, men's testosterone levels range between 10 and 30 nanomoles per litre dependant on factors including age and time of day, but a younger healthy male typically ranges between 20 and 30. Women's testosterone levels range between 0.7 and 2.8.

    Hubbard and others must take hormone suppressing drugs to reduce their testosterone levels.
     
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    The shame of BBC Sport
    The BBC threatens to report gender critical women to the police

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    Rob JesselandMadison Smith3 August, 2021
    Laurel Hubbard is a woman. If you don’t believe so, you’re a bigot and should be reported to the police for hate crime.

    That was the message BBC Sport tweeted to its 9.3 million followers yesterday evening in response to criticism of its gushing profile on the 43-year-old male New Zealand weightlifter.

    As it happens, Hubbard failed all his lifts yesterday. But the issue here is bigger than Hubbard, bigger even than the issue of men taking part in women’s sports. It’s about the infantilisation of debate by our national public broadcaster, and its threats against women for the crime of speaking up for their rights.

    First, the context. On Sunday, the BBC Sport website published one of the longest, most uncritical profiles of a sportsperson that we can remember seeing. Running to over 3,000 words and headlined Laurel Hubbard: The reluctant history-maker at the centre of sport’s transgender debate, the article is a masterpiece of mistruth and equivocation.

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    Perhaps it was too much to expect the BBC to correctly identify Hubbard’s sex. What we got instead, however, was linguistic nonsense about how he “lived as a man for the first three decades of her life”, as if being male is merely a matter of what clothes you wear, rather than a biological fact conferring significant sporting advantage.

    This was followed by several paragraphs of unalloyed praise for Hubbard’s bravery in trailblazing a new frontier for mediocre men. Strangely, though, the profile found no space to mention Hubbard’s privileged or criminal history. Hubbard’s father, the former Mayor of Auckland, is the billionaire founder of Hubbard Foods. Of course, it’s not a crime to have a wealthy and well-connected parent. But when in 2018 Laurel drove his car into a pensioner who required major spinal surgery and months of rehabilitation, the judge ruled that his name be suppressed for several months to “avoid the distress of dealing with social media comment while she [sic] trained for Olympic qualifying events”. One can only wonder if Hubbard père had any influence on that decision.

    Unsurprisingly, the article did not go down well on social media

    Another interesting nugget not mentioned by the BBC was that in 2012 Laurel was appointed Executive Officer for Olympic Weightlifting New Zealand — the same year he began his transition.

    We don’t mention this to anathematise Hubbard. Like all of us, he is a complex and flawed human being. But instead of presenting him as a fully-rounded character, the BBC has chosen to airbrush away anything that spoils his narrative of brave unimpeachability.

    It was in the “science” section, however, that the article crossed from puffery to pure propaganda. It starts by saying “The process of transitioning from male to female [no such thing is possible] in itself significantly reduces testosterone, and studies [none are linked to] have shown this impacts athleticism and strength.” This intentionally anti-scientific language — “lived as a man”, “transitioned from male to female” — is straight out of the gender Newspeak dictionary. Moreover, it completely ignores that the prime advantage of testosterone is conferred during male puberty.

    It then quotes the medical and scientific director of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), who admits that while males do have a physical advantage over females, “there are so many other factors to take into account [none are given] … the threat to women’s sports is probably overstated.”

    Instead of acknowledging the criticism, the BBC said they would report people’s comments

    While two experts are then given a few sentences to explain why males are physically stronger than females regardless of their identity or testosterone levels, further space is given to another disingenuous commentator, themselves trans, who states: “We don’t know for certain whether transgender women are pound for pound stronger than cis gender women. That’s something that hasn’t been determined yet. It’s possible, but it’s not clear.” It then quoted gender medicine specialist James Barrett, who compared the idea that males have an advantage over females to arguments that women shouldn’t have the vote. Barrett then made the bizarre claim that because the transgender (male) cyclist Rachel McKinnon has so far only won one world championship, “it isn’t obvious that being trans women athletes confers advantage.”

    Unsurprisingly, the article did not go down well on social media. At the time of writing, over 1,200 people have replied to the BBC’s original tweet, seemingly all of them critical. “It’s the BBC’s biased reporting which really annoys people,” said one. “Why can’t you discuss these matters fairly and objectively like you used to?” Another wrote, “Even when the evidence is right in front of the BBC, such as mixed relays in Olympic swimming & triathlon where elite women are absolutely no match for elite men, the BBC comically claims evidence of male advantage over women is unproven.”

    And here’s where things get really sinister. Instead of acknowledging the criticism, the BBC replied to its own tweet, saying: “We will block people bringing hate to our comments section. We will report the most serious cases to the relevant authorities.”

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    Framing your opponents as hateful is the politics of the kindergarten. Those of us involved in the debate are used to this tactic from teenage transactivists; to see our public national broadcaster enforce gender ideology by threatening police action is, however, quite astounding. Not only is this a gross abuse of its nationwide platform and a grotesque insult to all those pointing out inaccuracies in the BBC’s reporting; it is also entirely deaf to a conversation that has for the last few years been taking place across the UK, Europe, the world — and even on the BBC itself.

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    Martina Navratoliva’s documentary can no longer be watched
    Two years ago Martina Navratoliva presented an hour-long BBC documentary exploring whether transwomen retained a physical advantage over women. It was a carefully balanced, scientifically rigorous, and genuinely courageous piece of public service broadcasting — the BBC at its best. But it was only featured on iPlayer for a few days after broadcast, and remains unavailable today.

    We can only guess why the BBC has chosen to keep Martina’s documentary in the vault at a time when the world is hungry for the facts. If they are ashamed of having made a real contribution to public understanding of fairness in sport, so be it.

    But in threatening to report this perceived “hate” to the police, the BBC should be aware of the gravity of what it is doing: smearing women for expressing disgust at the loss of their sports, and threatening them with criminalisation for having the temerity to say, truthfully, that Laurel Hubbard is a man. If Auntie is bent on making an enemy of its own audience, its end — surely and sadly — cannot be far away.
     
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    We live in a weird World.
     
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    why cant the all genders use the male loos
    queues outside the female toilets can be long enough already
     
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    I find it difficult nowadays to work out which articles are parody’s and which aren’t.
     
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    I'd be more concerned as to what the **** has happened to his eyes <yikes>
     
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    Tail is really wagging the dog here, or is it the willy?

     
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    I used to have biological sex-based thoughts about Ms Davies back in the day.
     
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    If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck…
     
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    Uber really....speaking as some one who spent their younger life being constantly mistaken for a boy.

    And my older life being called very nasty words for a lesbian due to short hair, my dislike of skirts and my love of football .


    Quack quack quack
     
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