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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

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Should there be a second Brexit vote

  1. Yes

    30.3%
  2. No

    58.8%
  3. Dont know

    0.8%
  4. Its too late

    1.7%
  5. Ell rulz

    0.8%
  6. couldnt give a fook

    6.7%
  7. Will WJ ever see whats hitting him smack in the face

    1.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    It was good of the little Millwall chappy to start another Brexit thread for us though.

    Nice chaps the Wallies. I may start shopping at Walmart to say thank you.
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Given the thread title the brexitears should be posting the word sorry.
     
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  3. lifecheshirewhite

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    you had your chance to increase the bet and had no bottle.
     
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  4. lifecheshirewhite

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    Go on call the brexit voters racist again.shame on you.
     
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  5. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    And you have your chance now...
     
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  6. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    No need. Its the only reason you had for voting brexit.
     
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  7. lifecheshirewhite

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    Like you and 20/20 I'm not an economist,have no idea and don't care.
     
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  8. lifecheshirewhite

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    Read back your comment biggot.
     
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  9. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Is this a new plan? If you only bet on things you know about you wont be having any bets.
     
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  10. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    20/20 you were right in post #140.
    Whats welsh for irony?
     
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  11. lifecheshirewhite

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    bored now and not getting into this again we won you lost <whistle>
     
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  12. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Coward...
     
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  13. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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  14. Chippy / Glory

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    We will win every round from here on.
     
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  15. Eric Le Merde

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    I can see this is an emmotional debate and people aren't letting information get in the way of their views but some of the latest data shows that there are fundamental issues with the UK economy that have nothing to do with BREXIT
    Low productivity
    Poor skill level and education
    High debt
    North South divide
    Over reliance in some regions on funding from the EU, Wales and NI

    There are some BREXIT items
    Low share value of UK based companies since June 2016
    Reduced investment
    Increased business uncertainty

    The main observations are that the United Kingdom is facing challenging times, with Brexit creating serious economic uncertainties that could stifle growth for years to come. Maintaining the closest economic relationship with the European Union will be absolutely key, for the trade of goods and services as well as the movement of labour. Macroeconomic and fiscal policy can and should continue being used to support the economy, both during and after the exit negotiations. Future prosperity will depend on new reforms to improve job quality and boost labour productivity.

    So it looks like a poor situation is only being made worse, due to uncertainty, caused by BREXIT but like it or not trade and labour mobility with the EU is key for the UK

    Good luck
     
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  16. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Yes Eric, those fundamental problems are not new news and to be fair they are not due to Brexit. They apply whether we leave or remain

    The main impacts of Brexit (good or bad) will obviously come when we do exit.
     
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  17. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    The impacts of Brexit are mainly future: but it's interesting how the tone has become more pessimistic recently. The Telegraph is a right wing rag who mainly support Brexit and always support the conservatives. Here's tomorrow's headlines on brexit - not very good reading:

    'British jobs will be moved abroad by end of year

    Army could be sent to patrol uk borders if Brexit 'no deal'

    Merkel and Macron toughen up EU's 'lenient' Brexit guidelines

    David Davis had a cunning plan for Brexit. But I fear we may have spotted a flaw'
     
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  18. Eric Le Merde

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    It has always appeared strange to me that a vote on leaving without a full picture of the implications was a leap in the dark. Perhaps a two staged approach would have been better

    1. Do we want to find out what leaving means
    2, Now we know do we want to leave.
     
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    Guess both campaigns are guilty of not providing the full picture. Think they tried, but the emphasis was more on persuasion rather than facts. Which is Politics 101, sadly.
     
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  20. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Well, we are gradually doing 1, not sure if we'll get the chance to do 2.
     
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