Off Topic Atlantis: Did Bobby Ewing Really Live There?

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  1. Sandy Camel

    Sandy Camel Well-Known Member

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    Tonight, on Ancient Aliens...no, only kidding. I think it's fair to say most people go with the idea that Plato made it all up, so let's see what he 'made up' regarding it's location.

    Firstly, that the tale comes from Solon who lived about 200 years before Plato, about 630-560BC and had travelled in Egypt. He acessed and translated the tale from Egyptian records which stated that sometime in the distant past, the Greeks fended off an invasion that had it's origins in the Atlantic. It also says it was beyond what the Greeks call the Pillars of Heracles/Hercules. There was a large island, from which it was possible to cross to other islands then to the whole of the continent which encompasses the ocean. It's destruction was swift and led to it sinking beneath the waves, leaving the sea full of mud and impassable for hundreds of years. Nothing was left except for it's backbone sticking out the sea.

    Hesiod places the location of Atlas as standing in the extreme ends of the earth in the far west, beyond the Pillars of Hercules. He also says that he later becomes associated with the Atlas mountains but doesn't specify why. Now, Atlantis basically means the Island of Atlas and the Atlantic means the Sea of Atlas. Atlas was a really powerful figure in the Greek Myths, so here's the theory and the one fun tool you need to play along. Bathymetric map of the globe.

    https://download.gebco.net/

    The Pillars of Hercules is the name given in ancient antiquity to the flanks of the Strait of Gibralter, so where the Mediterenean meets the Atlantic. Both Solon and Hesiod describe travelling westward beyond them, into the Atlantic. While Hesiod's description ends there, the Egyptian account goes further. It describes a large island, other islands, then a continent beyond. Today, we know there is a continent beyond the Atlantic, well two actually, it's what we call the America's. What our current day maps don't have is a large island and then a chain of islands in between. But if you look at that gebco map, travel due west from the pillars and imagine the sea level lower I think you can see a large island (the Azores today), then a grouping of very small islands, (New England Seamounts) then a great continent beyond.

    So if there was a way that it was possible to show how those currently submerged features in the North Atlantic were at some point in human history (say 100,000BC to 10,500 BC) above the water, would that then suggest that the tale is true?
     
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    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think Bobby would have lived in a watery world without camera trickery . He was attached to a harness which kept him in place as he appeared to be swimming half a mile in the Southfork tiny pool
     
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    Who the f*ck is Bobby Ewing?

    Is the OP referring to Patrick Duffy (the actor that played the fictional character)?

    Never having been a soap officionado, I really have no idea what the OP is talking about.
     
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    Yes, Patrick Duffy, the actor who played Bobby Ewing and the Man from Atlantis. It was meant as a bit of a joke, sorry that it went over your head.
     
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    It was Bobby thompson the man from penshaw surely.
     
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    Glad to see this thread has caught the imagination of well nobody actually, but I'm going to keep on keeping on with it. Seeing as Plato said the island sank, I thought it only fair to see if it was possible to find some process that would allow this to happen. Say a big hello to Bradyseism, which is the gradual uplift and descent of the earth's crust due to the filling and emptying of an underground magma chamber. Evidence for this was found at the Macullum of Pozzuoli, which was first excavated in the 18th century.
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    If you look at the columns, you can see a dark band on them. This is actually damage caused by marine molluscs.

    "After a long subsidence through Roman times, there was a period of uplift in the Middle Ages around AD 700 to 800, then after more subsidence the land rose again from around 1500 up to the last eruption in 1538. The land again subsided gradually, then between 1969 and 1973 the land rose by about 1.7 metres (5.6 ft). Over the following decade there was a little subsidence, then between 1982 and 1994 there was uplift of almost 2 metres (6.6 ft)"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macellum_of_Pozzuoli

    I get that this process is gradual and the sinking of Atlantis wasn't. However, there are a couple of points I think are relevant as to the validity of Atlantis. First, this shows that vertical changes can occur on the earth's surface, which can be seen, due to the movement of magma underground, which can't be seen. Second, there are magma chambers under the Azores. So would it be possible that the Azores once had a massive amount of magma pushed into the chambers beneath it to raise the land above the sea, and then something happened to suddenly release it, causing the land to sink beneath the sea?
     
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