1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic Bands reforming

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by THE EXCLUSIVE 10%, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    14,737
    I heard Steve Cropper, who was involved on every record I liked in the 1960s, talking about making this song. Dave Porter and Isaac Hayes, who were writing it had got as far as
    Don't you ever be sad
    Lean on me when times are bad
    When the day comes and you are down
    In a river of trouble and about to drown

    and were stuck for the next line. One of them, can't remember which one, Sam or Dave,had gone for a slash. Someone shouted to him to hurry up and he shouted back " Hold on, I'm Coming!". Dave Porter said that's it! And a classic was born.
     
    #61
    Kempton and Help! like this.
  2. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2012
    Messages:
    24,258
    Likes Received:
    9,571
    A germ of an idea in the Beatles number, recorded a few years earlier ?



    maybe a little more polished version:

     
    #62
  3. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    24,472
    Likes Received:
    19,021
    <laugh> A classic tale of a classic song <ok>
     
    #63
  4. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    14,737
    Interesting bloke to listen to Steve Cropper. He was the best one of the guests on Ronnie Wood's programme. The number of songs he cowrote or did the guitar on is amazing. He said to Ronnie Wood he had written an intro which anyone would recognise from just the opening two notes and Ronnie would be able to join in straight away. So he played the two opening notes from Soul Man and Ronnie duly recognised if and joined in. Also settled the argument about people saying dusty road. It isn't, it is coming to you down a dust road. Other interesting things were he wrote Midnight Hour on the same floor of the hotel where Martin Luther King was later assassinated. It was the only hotel where whites and blacks could mix and all the Stax acts went there. Later he was stuck for an intro for an Eddie Floyd song. So he just reversed the notes of Midnight Hour and hey, presto!, the intro to Knock On Wood was sorted.
    Most of my musical idols are long gone but would love the chance to meet Steve Cropper and hear some of his reminiscences.

     
    #64
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2021
  5. tigermaul

    tigermaul Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2011
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    Hook’s overrated, especially by himself. New Order are just fine without him.
     
    #65
  6. tigermaul

    tigermaul Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2011
    Messages:
    1,550
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    Orange Juice.
     
    #66
  7. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    2,489
    Likes Received:
    4,062
    Fine without Hooks Bass? Each to their own.
     
    #67
    tigermaul likes this.
  8. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    7,125
    Likes Received:
    11,711
    Steve Cropper is a fantastic guitarist....I loved the riffs on booker t and the mg's' time is tight'!!! Beautiful song.I don't know if you've ever heard it or not but the Clash covered it on the album 'Black Market Clash'? They did a beautiful job of it too.
     
    #68
  9. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    14,737
    Steve Cropper always says he wasn't a lead guitarist but a rhythm guitarist there to move the song along. But as this shows he can play a mean lead. Amazing to think this album, probably my favourite, which it was taken off was recorded in 24 hours except for one song.

     
    #69
    Ric Glasgow and Help! like this.
  10. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    7,125
    Likes Received:
    11,711
    Nice song!!!I was tempted to plug a guitar in and give it some rhythm...Recorded in 24 hrs? Amazing what real musicians could do back in the day,I've got a Muddy Waters album called 'Folk Singer',it's basically an acoustic 'unplugged' studio album and is one of the best blues albums I've ever heard.....These guys just sat and played and very seldom did 're-takes or dub overs.It was raw but you get the feeling that you're sat in the studio playing on it!!
     
    #70
    SW3 Chelsea Tiger likes this.

  11. GEvans76

    GEvans76 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    4,010
    Likes Received:
    3,431
    Captain Beefheart, Frank Zappa. Jimi Hendrix, Miles Davis, John Coltrane too many bands and artists to list.
     
    #71
    Newland Tiger likes this.
  12. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    14,737
    It started off as this in 1951.



    Muddy Waters altered it, and the title, 4 or 5 years later.



    BBKing had his first top 40 hit with his version in 1964. The
    Otis Blue album was recorded in 1965 so it is probable that his was the version that inspired Otis to do his cover.
     
    #72
  13. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    8,730
    Likes Received:
    12,055
    miles Davies & John Coltrane are 2 of my faves. I love the raw freedom of expression
     
    #73
    Ric Glasgow and GEvans76 like this.
  14. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    8,730
    Likes Received:
    12,055
    Ray Charles (not a band as such....but...)
     
    #74
  15. highpeak tiger

    highpeak tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    3,653
    Likes Received:
    3,530
    Garry Moore did some good stuff on the same guitar after Peter Green gave it to him
     
    #75
  16. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    7,125
    Likes Received:
    11,711
    Brilliant stuff!!! I drifted into you tube and got lost for a while,submerged in blues:emoticon-0102-bigsmEnded up with Chuck Berry,Eric Clapton & Keef jamming!!!
     
    #76
  17. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2013
    Messages:
    11,398
    Likes Received:
    19,273
    Surprised no one is mentioning any 70s supergroups: Slik, Our Kid, Rich Kids etc.
     
    #77
  18. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    14,737
    Always listen to Jimmy Reed and think how many bands copied his riffs (especially the Pretty Things).



    The Stones were big fans of Jimmy Reed. He died skint due to his lifestyle and Mick and Keef paid for his funeral. Their cover of this was one of their most authentic sounding blues covers.

     
    #78
    Ric Glasgow likes this.
  19. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    24,472
    Likes Received:
    19,021
    I was playing Miles Davis 'On The Corner' recently. I got it on vinyl about 15 years ago and forgot about it, so gave it a spin. Played it about 20 times over the next month. Wonderful!

    It's amazing how an old recording can be so refreshing. There's so much going on on there you can just get lost in it.
     
    #79
    GEvans76 and SW3 Chelsea Tiger like this.
  20. Quill

    Quill Bastard

    Joined:
    May 23, 2012
    Messages:
    40,705
    Likes Received:
    13,274
    Also Charles Mingus, Sonny Rollins, Thelonious Monk among many others.
     
    #80
    GEvans76 likes this.

Share This Page