Off Topic Bill Nicholson Arms

This discussion brings to mind 3 goals.
1. Henry against Ireland. ( Compare hand of god goal )
2. Son against Chelsea ( Maradona's second against England )
3. Son against Burnley ( as above )

Goals 2 and 3 ,like Maradona's, would never have happened had they been brought down early on in their run and we would have been deprived of beautiful moments.

 

Also, more importantly, goals 2 and 3 wouldn't have had some embittered bloke who was eight inches taller than the player who scored pissing their pants about it for 34 years...

 

Exactly my thoughts. Plus I hate being told when I need to mourn someone famous. Like Lady Di, Michael Jackson, Prince etc. If someone passes that I personally liked or appreciated then it's different, but it will be my choice. Even worse are the people that seem to get more upset about losing a celebrity they don't know than someone in their own family. I like the Beatles and if John Lennon is killed I am suitably upset. If someone dies that I thought about as Spurf posted, then I'm not going to be told to mourn.

 

Scrolled through my camera roll and found this, he was a guest at one of our games at Wembley. Was pretty surreal, could tell the moment he was announced by the aura and atmosphere that he was one of the greatest to have ever played the game, never really seen a non-Spurs player (testimonial aside!) or non-Spurs fan get such a reception as he did. Wish I were around to have seen him play live, seen enough clips to know how brilliant he was but nothing beats seeing a player in the flesh, been very fortunate already to have seen some greats but he's someone I unfortunately never got the privilege of watching.

 

How the f**k did Amazon get the liverpool game

 

They bought it online...

 

Hope Hermes deliver it by lobbing it over the fence

 

Note that the Dec 20/27 games are on sunday (ie no EL distortion) .
So Spurs can play two weeks of sun followed by wed (3 day gap) ,
but an equivalent of wed followed by sat is somehow just not possible,

 

Profiteering from a global pandemic, mostly...

 

Their actual part of the TV deal gives them all the matches in that midweek set of fixtures.

 

Goddamn it, 2020, you just take and take and take don't you?

 

Christmas 2020 , I invited Vardy

 

I can close my eyes and see Dave warming up for his Spurs debut.His skill in a kick about...wow!....and the whistle blew for the start and we realised what a diamond we had......!

 

For some reason, Dele is the most popular footballer in Vermont

 

Shiltons face was a picture ... Gazza and the presenters all laughing and Shilton sat there deadpan

 

Imho the Falklands War is the reason that Maradona called it the "hand of God" goal and why the media never let it go.
If Maradona had done the same thing against France he wouldn't have called it the "hand of God" and it wouldn't have hardly been mentioned over the years.

I remember watching it as a 19 yr old and my honest reaction was how the **** did he get away with it?

I also remember him being kicked stupid in the match, which to me is as much a part of cheating as him punching the ball in the net. That form of cheating (kicking the **** outta good players) was epidemic between the 1960s and 1990s.
I recent saw Graham Souness talking about the Spurs v Liverpool 1982 League Cup Final and they showed a horrific takle he made on Tony Galvin, effectively kicking him out of the game after 5 or so minutes and what would be a straight red today warrented nothing back then.

That was the norm back then

The concept of "professional " cheating comes from thelate 1970s when players regularly tripped players from behind to prevent them scoring. This went on week in week out but it was only properly dealt with after it happened in the 1980 FA Cup final in front of millions on the only English club match live tv.
Willie young tripped Paul Allen from behind when he'd never catch him to stop him scoring. There was outrage that such blatant cheating was only punishable with a yellow card so the FA changed the rules to make "professional fouls" a straight red card.

So 6 years before the "hand of God" goal we were already struggling with "professional fouls".

 

Oh gary gary has so much class...what a fantastic little tribute

 

I agree with the Falklands war connection and that was Maradona's intention. That was god paying back the English for the Falklands. Professional fouls go back before the 70's for example it's the reason Alf Ramsey described Argentina as animals in the 1966 world cup. The way Spurs were kicked out of the 61/62 European Cup (when it was only contested by champions) by Benfica. Read Jimmy Greaves account. The difference I am talking about is that it used to be frowned upon, it's not now. It's not the behavior that's changed it's the perception of the behavior. It's been turned into mainstream and the Hand of God had a big role to play in that process.