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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Apr 20, 2020.

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  1. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    how do you plan to deal with China's pollution?
    or are you just going to spend more and more money as China pollutes more and more?
    it's ok saying you want to improve things but what are you going to do?
     
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    the UK produces so little they dont even appear on the table
    yet we have got to spend more than the other countries?
     
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    Beware President Biden - if you go woke, you'll go broke, as your self-imploding liberal friends across the pond in Britain are proving
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Beware-President-Biden-woke-youll-broke.html

    "A few days ago, America's most famous trans woman Caitlyn Jenner was stopped in a Malibu parking lot by TMZ and asked what she thought of the debate over whether people like her should be allowed to compete against girls in school sport.

    She thought carefully for a few seconds and then replied: 'This is a question of fairness, that's why I oppose biological boys who are trans competing in girls' sports in school. It just isn't fair, and we have to protect girls' sports in our schools.'

    Now, you might think Jenner is particularly well qualified to speak about this subject given that before she transitioned, she competed as a male decathlete back in the '70s and won an Olympic gold medal.

    And you might also think, as I do, that she was just speaking common sense based on the irrefutable scientific reality that people born with male bodies have far superior physical advantages over people born with female bodies.

    That, after all, is why sport divides men and women from competing against each other in anything where power, strength and speed is a factor: because it would self-evidently be unfair.

    I imagine that the vast majority of Americans would agree with Caitlyn Jenner."

    Not crazed lefties though
     
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  5. DMD

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    China's figures can be misleading, as they tend to be presented as a lump rather than by head of population, but I take your point. It's a fair one, as is the fact that the people liable to suffer, are those that have had few of the advantages, and most of the disadvantages of industrialisation.

    My solution? Pretty much what they did for lead and acid rain, engineer solutions that limit the emissions, and then add in measures to reduce consumption. The end product is liable to be more efficient, so market forces will act to improve the environment.

    They're making noises about heading that way with carbon capture and storage, but that was suggested for coal and other fossil fuels previously, and didn't work then, and it's the same technology. The companies pushing it have a vested interest, which tells you all you need to know.
     
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    As I said Pete it's a scam to get carbon tax from the plebs .

    Mastercard have a carbon footprint app targeted at lefty ****ing idiots that think recycling their quorn sausages packaging will save the planet .

    Covid-19 masks are causing massive rubbish Islands in the World's oceans and the same soft brains that believe in Global climate crisis also push the masks .

    You see them discarded all over the place.
     
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    why should China get involved?
    they dont seem to care now
     
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    China don't give a **** Ironically they are buying our nuclear power stations and getting awarded these green Government contracts too .

    They run the Biden Government
     
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    there were five mate.

    cue MELTDOWN!
     
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    not buying but building two nuclear power stations
    I'm sure they will ensure they have the ability to switch them off anytime they want
    China already hacks organisations all over the West
     
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  11. DMD

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    They don't buy in to it in the way so many in the west have, and to an extent they have a point, but they are also doing a lot that doesn't always get the coverage it might. They'll get involved if it's economically beneficial, which is why I suggested that a reduction in emissions is actually a saving, unless you're selling the fuel, so they are liable to go with something that works that way, with the environment being a convenient benefit.
     
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    China knows that Western leaders are weak and they will demand all sorts of favours before they consider doing anything
    They plan to invade Taiwan yet the West pretends they haven't noticed
     
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    The western leaders don't have to demand anything of them. They'd be wasting their breath trying, but advancing technology to produce things more economically would pull them along in order to compete. The green deal would do the opposite, as it would cost us more to produce inferior products, which as you say, would be of minimal environmental benefit on its own.
     
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    advancing technology!?
    how long will that take?
    "There's a climate emergency! We have to panic now!"
     
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    The scientists reckon that the Paris Agreement, even if they all did what they claim, which none of them have, wouldn't make a farts bit of difference to the over all issue, which is why Trump binned it. Yet that's what the doom goblin and co harp back to when selling their Armageddon.

    Fossil fuels helped the Netherlands expand in to the sea, so if sea level rises are the issue, the technology already exists for that bit of it.
     
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    anything the crazies can think of are the issues
     
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    I watched Seaspiracy and it claim most plastic pollution comes from fishing fleets.

    Conspirasea would have been better.
     
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    Mostly Chinese, Indian and African fleets, no doubt.
     
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    Everybody
     
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  20. Erik

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    Fascist
     
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